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MarkB

07-04-2004 06:20:50




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Two weeks ago I went into my garage and discovered that someone had swiped my MIG welder and Skil saw, along with my son's air compressor and miter saw. They also grabbed my tool belt, which was full of tools. I was relieved that they didn't take the time to clean me out; they got away with over $1000 worth of tools, but left several thousand dollars worth of hand and power tools behind.

I checked out a local used tool store, and sure enough, my MIG welder was sitting right in the middle of the store. It looks like I'll get almost all of my stuff back, and the sheriff is looking for the culprits. (One of them used his own driver's license as ID when they sold the tools!)

I was lucky. I've never marked my tools, recorded serial numbers or done anything else that I can use to prove ownership. That makes it tricky to prove that the tools at the tool store are mine, and it would have complicated things if I had to file an insurance claim. So here's what I'm going to do:

1. Mark everything. Not sure if I'll use my name or driver's license #.

2. Record model numbers and serial numbers of all power tools.

3. Take digital photographs of everything.

You all might want to consider doing the same.

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RusselAZ

07-05-2004 17:16:54




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
Been looking at the responses about not using your SS #. Agreed, don't use the whole thing, BUT, in the army they marked laundrey with your last name initial and the last 4 of your SS #. Before the military used SS #'s it was the last initial and the last 4 of your service number.

Still seems to work. I enabled the police one time to make an arrest by letting them know where I thought the motorcycle (dirt bike) was. They asked it I could identify it. I said I could,,the main jet had been soldered shut and re drilled. They went to the place and there it was, and they got into small talk about dirt bikes and asked the parties if soldering the main jets was a good thing to do. Well, the "parties" made much ado about how stupid that would be,,blah blah blah, so the police impounded the bike and took it apart. Yeap, was mine. This along with the ID scratched in the plastic of the air box put two young men away for 2 years.

Now, they title dirt bikes so it is somewhat better unless they go south of the border.

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Rauville

07-05-2004 06:36:17




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
I had someone pry the lock off a machine shed door, and steal a full toolbox, air compresser, battery charger, solar fencer, etc. Contacted the Sheriff, who sent a Deputy out to "investigate". The Deputy looked things over and told me: "Well, I could tell you who probably took the stuff; but I wouldn't want you to get hurt...he's a pretty tough character...I know I wouldn't want to go up against him".
That was the end of the investigation!

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MAC,IL

07-05-2004 06:56:53




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 Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to Rauville, 07-05-2004 06:36:17  
Sounds exactly like what our county boys would say. I always wonder sometimes, maybe these boys dont want to catch the habitual lowlifes. If they did they wouldnt have nothing to do.



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Wayne

07-04-2004 18:46:55




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
At least with tools you stand a chance of getting them back, marked or not. Vehicles are a different story. Two years ago we had our service truck stolen off the body manufacturers lot along with 5 other trucks. Fortunately being newly constructed trucks none had any tools on them other than the attached welders, etc. They were able to find one truck that had run out of fuel about 40 miles down the interstate and had been abandoned, but the rest are still missing. We were told that the chance of any of them ever being found was virtually zero since they would most likely have been taken South of the border or loaded onto a container ship and taken overseas. Heck of a nights "work" for these guys, they made off with right at half a million dollars worth of equipment and other than the initial risk, the chances of getting caught are virtually zero....and they say crime doesn't pay....no wonder so much stuff gets stolen. Heck even when they get caught they get slapped on the wrist and given another chance to do it again, only this time they've had the chance to learn from experience and not get caught....I agree with the one post that said basically I shoot first and worry about the questions later. If there were more like people this nowdays I imagine the theft statistics would drop dramatically....Just my .02

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Davis In SC

07-04-2004 19:49:40




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 Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to Wayne, 07-04-2004 18:46:55  
Wayne, you are right about the shooting part.. The only reason the worthless Crackhead I discussed in my previous post never bothered my stuff was; the third time he knocked on my door trying to bum money, a ride, etc. , I met him at the door with a tool made by Smith & Wesson. (this qualifies as tool talk) I never pointed it at him or threatened him, but told him I was a private person & would rather he never came back. He got the hint !!! ,he never knocked on my door again.... The house he was breaking into is occupied by a lady in her 80's she is totally deaf. Thankfully, her son came by to check on her, that is when he caught the low-life trying to pry a window open. Another thing that needs to be marked is trailers. We have had 3 trailers stolen from our business in the last 5 years. One was a new 16 ft eqipment trailer. It was missing a week before we realized it was stolen. All of us used it & all assumed one of the other guys had it. I get a letter once a year from Sheriff's Dept. wanting to know if it has turned up. Thankfully we are getting a new Sheriff this election year....

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BobR

07-04-2004 12:23:09




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
By all means, mark those tools! I might also add that if use a truck box like I do, keep it locked,and bolt it securely to the bed. My roll away is marked and locked as well,along with everything in it.Several years ago, I had a 3/4"socket set and chain saw stole from my back porch. OUCH!!! They weren't marked. I don't leave tools setting out in the open anymore either!



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Jackrabbit

07-04-2004 12:13:06




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
I Agree. Mark everything with a theft number issued by your local enforcement. NEVER use your name, driver's license number of SS number. If a thief is caught on my property he will be dropped on the spot. By the time the police get here, he will have a gun in his hand and evidence of him taking the first shot. Most people around here (including the police dept.) know that I will not call 911, and I have never had any trouble nor do I ever want any. I just will not tolerate any low life that wants to harm me, my family, or my property. My idea of 911 is I will fire my 9mm 11 times and let the police sort out the mess.

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JT

07-04-2004 10:36:29




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
If it were me I would never NEVER use my SS number to ID tools. Just giving the theif the opportunity to steal your identity.

My suggestion would be to get a sherrifs theft ID number. These are a number that your local sherrifs Dept can get for you registered in your name. Marked all my tools that I took to AZ last winter knowing that if they were stolen on the way or in Phoenix the chances of recovering them were greatly increased and the ID number made for no dispute about ownership.

Dad had a CB stolen in the late 70's at a town function in small town IA. Was a rash of CB's stolen that night. If I remember right the only radios that were recovered had these numbers.

Hope things go well recovering your tools.

JT

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MarkB

07-04-2004 11:46:04




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 Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to JT, 07-04-2004 10:36:29  
JT,

Are these theft ID numbers available in any state? I'm in Michigan; I've never heard of them.



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JT

07-05-2004 07:42:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 11:46:04  
The way I understand it they are. Don't hold me to that though.

They aren't well publicized though and the receptionist at the Sherrifs Office may not know about them. They were pushed here in IA just a little in the 70's. All sorts of supplies available. Metal stamps, Engravers, even confettie for grain.

They are a 10 digit alpha numeric code. First two letters reference the state, next three numbers are for the county, then 4 digits and a letter that are specific to you. Something like this.

IA0990123X

This one would be for someone living in Iowa in county 99, and would be the 123rd person with a last name beginning with X to register a number.

Hope this helps.

JT

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MarkB

07-05-2004 16:00:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to JT, 07-05-2004 07:42:47  
Thanks, JT.

I'll check into these IDs with the local sheriff.



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Davis In SC

07-04-2004 10:29:05




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
I agree about marking tools, some of mine are marked & I need to do the rest of them. One post mentioned marking guns, I am hesitant to do this for one reason: Say someone steals my gun(s) & commits a crime.... The fact that it was not locked securely enough to keep the thief from stealing it puts part of the blame on me, in the eyes of liberal courts. Chances are ,I am then in as much or more trouble than the low-life that stole it. I have read about victims suing & winning large sums from the honest gun owner that had one stolen, that was then used in a crime. Doesn't make sense, but it can happen.... Most of the stealing here is by drug addicts, mostly ones on crack-cocaine. A neighbor let a relative move in recently, he is a crack addict. He stole lots of things in the area, & was caught trying to break into a house down the road, he left & has not been seen since. Police ran his name & found out he is wanted for armed robbery. Seems to me the neighbor should have been charged with harboring a fugitive, but police would not charge him, but did tell him they had better not find him living there again. About all we can do is just lock everything up & try to keep a watchful eye on things. Regards, Davis

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Jeremy

07-04-2004 08:28:58




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
Had a neighbor wipe out my roll away. Knew the lay out of the house and was picked same day. None of my tools were recovered. I got them back I kept the packing list from sears and listed all tools seperatly. We still get a check for a few dollars a month from the prison.

Jeremy



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MAC,IL

07-04-2004 07:20:41




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
I mark all my guns/tools. Lots in a place you wouldnt think to look, plus keep serial numbers. But again it is hard sometimes to outfox a low life thief. Around here if you catch the culprit and hold him at gun point, thats illegal use of a deadly weapon, if you plant a ball bat on his head, thats assault and you could be charged and sued. Same apply's if you give him a knuckle sandwitch. Buyers of stolen merchandise should be held accountable also, no excuses. Amounts to one thing, the honest citizen dont stand a chance when it comes to protecting yourself or your property.

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KURT (mi)

07-04-2004 06:56:35




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 Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 06:20:50  
Yep, lots of lowlifes out there. Three years ago I was looking though the classifieds and I looked at an add for guns and something looked interesting and I called the # and the guy says "yeah I can get almost any kind of gun you want" I mentioned a 30-06 semiauto and the guys response was yeah I think I could get one of those, I wish I had called the cops on him. Was it a kid that ripped you off, or a semipro. It is too bad you caught him in the act and held him until the cops got there.

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MarkB

07-04-2004 07:26:39




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 Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to KURT (mi), 07-04-2004 06:56:35  
The suspects are amateurs, known drug users. They're currently laying low, but local law enforcement is looking for them in connection with a number of incidents. Even if they only pin them with my case, it looks like they'll be doing some time.



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MAC,IL

07-04-2004 08:02:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Mark those tools! in reply to MarkB, 07-04-2004 07:26:39  
They may do time, but very little at that. Got a car thief here a while back, sentenced to 5 years, was back on street in 5 month.



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