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6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences??

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Dave

06-27-2004 10:28:05




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Hello Just welding Mild steel ,can these 2 rods be interchanged




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T_Bone

06-28-2004 06:20:43




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 Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences? in reply to Dave, 06-27-2004 10:28:05  
Hi Dave,

Here is a reprint of a post from the past threads I worte:

It's the electrode flux that first determines the best choice of welding current type. Since flux composistion is classified "top seceret" by the manufactures we can only generalize without looking up the mfg electrode recomendations.

If your using a unkown electrode mfg then you can use this "generalized" list:

Last number on the rod is flux type:
8= DCEP
O= DCEP
1= DCEN
2,3,4 or 7= AC or DC 5= DCEP (only)
6= DCRP, AC, DCEN

DCEP= DC electrode positive also called reverse polarity
DCEN= DC electrode negitive also called straight polarity


This list doesn't hold true for all electrodes. If the above list recomends DCEP and the electrode doesn't run well, try DCEN, then AC.

A good rule of thumb for electrodes; XXX(A)
Electrode numbers ending in (A)= 0, 1, or 2 are deep penetration electrodes.
2/3 to full diameter of electrode is typical penetration

Numbers ending with 3 or 8 are mild penetration electrodes.
1/2 to 2/3 of electrode diameter is typical penetration

numbers ending with 4 or 7 are light penetration electrodes
1/3 to 1/2 of electrode diameter is typical penetration

This is pretty generalized as electrode amperage, arc length, travel speed, steel type, joint design, electrode polarity, base metal temperature, abiment temperature would effect penetration for the same electrode type.

T_Bone

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Jay Ferris

09-30-2004 15:59:52




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 Re: Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differen in reply to T_Bone, 06-28-2004 06:20:43  
Can 6011 be used to weld Sch 40 pipe when trying to certify the sample under AWS standards?

Jay



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mike

06-28-2004 03:03:15




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 Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences? in reply to Dave, 06-27-2004 10:28:05  
use the 6011 for penatration. If you want it to look nice put the 6013 over the 6011



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al

06-27-2004 19:09:37




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 Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences? in reply to Dave, 06-27-2004 10:28:05  
I have limited experience as a welder. I use 6011 as it penetrates and makes a good weld that dosen't brake apart. It makes a fairly flat weld bead. In the booket I have it gives the following info: 6011 has been designed specificaly to meet the needs of the repair and maintenance welder. It gives maximum strength and toughness consistently, even where dirty and rusty material must be welded in all positions under the most unfavorable conditions. The 6013 is a general purpose electrode.

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mouse meat

06-27-2004 18:16:11




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 Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences? in reply to Dave, 06-27-2004 10:28:05  
6011 is a freeze rod, meaning it is good for vertical welds and deep penetration it does take some practice to use. 6013 is a real good rod for smooth beads welding on the flat.



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Don

06-27-2004 14:31:57




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 Re: 6013 6011 Welding Rod ,,What The Differences? in reply to Dave, 06-27-2004 10:28:05  
6011 is an easy to use rod with a lot of splatter. Best for rusty and painted metal. Difficult for begineers to make clean welds. Must be kept dry. Very good for farm repairs.

6013 is easy to use with little splatter. It is easier to make good looking welds on clean material. Has a lot of slag which must be cleaned off before over passes. Sometimes called a contact rod becuse you do not need to maintain a gap between the rod and metal.

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