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International-400 burns oil.

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Mike Gray

10-12-1998 19:43:23




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One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).




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Buffy

10-13-1998 20:18:04




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 Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Mike Gray, 10-12-1998 19:43:23  
: One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

No



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Mike Gray

10-13-1998 20:29:29




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 Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Buffy, 10-13-1998 20:18:04  
: : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: No

Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

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Pete

10-14-1998 03:24:06




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 Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Mike Gray, 10-13-1998 20:29:29  

: : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : No

: Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

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big fred

10-14-1998 06:45:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Pete, 10-14-1998 03:24:06  
: : : : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : : No

: : Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

: Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

Well, you could disconnect the connecting rod on the offending piston, putty it in place with JB Weld, then remove the valve pushrods for that cylinder. Should stop the oil problem, and at only a 25% reduction in power. You may experience some vibration also. Seriously, if you are blowing oil past your rings, nothing short of solving the root problem will help.

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Buffy

10-14-1998 19:01:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to big fred, 10-14-1998 06:45:55  
: : : : : : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : : : No

: : : Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

: : Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

: Well, you could disconnect the connecting rod on the offending piston, putty it in place with JB Weld, then remove the valve pushrods for that cylinder. Should stop the oil problem, and at only a 25% reduction in power. You may experience some vibration also. Seriously, if you are blowing oil past your rings, nothing short of solving the root problem will help.

Sorry Mike, I might have suggested STP, but you ruled out thick oil. Post your question on tractor talk, maybe they know how to grow metal. Thanks Fred & Pete.

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Mike Gray

10-14-1998 19:26:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Buffy, 10-14-1998 19:01:58  
: : : : : : : : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : : : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : : : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : : : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : : : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : : : : No

: : : : Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

: : : Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

: : Well, you could disconnect the connecting rod on the offending piston, putty it in place with JB Weld, then remove the valve pushrods for that cylinder. Should stop the oil problem, and at only a 25% reduction in power. You may experience some vibration also. Seriously, if you are blowing oil past your rings, nothing short of solving the root problem will help.

: Sorry Mike, I might have suggested STP, but you ruled out thick oil. Post your question on tractor talk, maybe they know how to grow metal. Thanks Fred & Pete.

OKAY GUYS... I GUESS I WAS HOPEING FOR A MIRACLE CURE! MANY YEARS AGO I HEARD ABOUT THESE POWDERED METAL PELLETS THAT
YOU CAN STICK IN THE SPARK PLUG HOLE OF THE CYLINDER WITH BAD RINGS, AND THE METAL IS SUPPOSED TO COAT THE SURFACE OF THE
CYLINDER WALLS TO CORRECT THE POOR RING SEAL. I SUPPOSE IT'S PROBABLY ONLY A "QUACK" FIX AND NOT A "QUICK" FIX!
THANKS ANYWAY...
MIKE

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Wild Bill

10-17-1998 17:09:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Mike Gray, 10-14-1998 19:26:23  
: : : : : : : : : : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : : : : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : : : : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : : : : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : : : : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : : : : : No

: : : : : Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

: : : : Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

: : : Well, you could disconnect the connecting rod on the offending piston, putty it in place with JB Weld, then remove the valve pushrods for that cylinder. Should stop the oil problem, and at only a 25% reduction in power. You may experience some vibration also. Seriously, if you are blowing oil past your rings, nothing short of solving the root problem will help.

: : Sorry Mike, I might have suggested STP, but you ruled out thick oil. Post your question on tractor talk, maybe they know how to grow metal. Thanks Fred & Pete.

: OKAY GUYS... I GUESS I WAS HOPEING FOR A MIRACLE CURE! MANY YEARS AGO I HEARD ABOUT THESE POWDERED METAL PELLETS THAT
: YOU CAN STICK IN THE SPARK PLUG HOLE OF THE CYLINDER WITH BAD RINGS, AND THE METAL IS SUPPOSED TO COAT THE SURFACE OF THE
: CYLINDER WALLS TO CORRECT THE POOR RING SEAL. I SUPPOSE IT'S PROBABLY ONLY A "QUACK" FIX AND NOT A "QUICK" FIX!
: THANKS ANYWAY...
: MIKE

J.C. Whitney still sells this stuff, with the little pellets and a bottle of oil additive. Now, I've never used it, and I'm not saying that it works, but you can still get it. Costs about $10.00 in my '97 JCW catalog. This could be an interesting experiment, if you use it let us know what happens.

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Hawgee

10-18-1998 14:50:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: International-400 burns oil. in reply to Wild Bill, 10-17-1998 17:09:12  
: : : : : : : : : : : : : One cyliner has bad rings. Burns oil and fowls the plug often.
: : : : : : : : I don't want the ungodly expense of having a ring job done on it.
: : : : : : : : Heavy oil (50W) helps, but then winter starting is very hard. Is there
: : : : : : : : any other "tricks" I can do to minimize oil consumption, short of a
: : : : : : : : complete ring job? (Valve seats and guides checked okay).

: : : : : : : No

: : : : : : Gee, thanks for that helpful answer. I feel much better now.

: : : : : Yes there is something you can do it is called an Overhaul.

: : : : Well, you could disconnect the connecting rod on the offending piston, putty it in place with JB Weld, then remove the valve pushrods for that cylinder. Should stop the oil problem, and at only a 25% reduction in power. You may experience some vibration also. Seriously, if you are blowing oil past your rings, nothing short of solving the root problem will help.

: : : Sorry Mike, I might have suggested STP, but you ruled out thick oil. Post your question on tractor talk, maybe they know how to grow metal. Thanks Fred & Pete.

: : OKAY GUYS... I GUESS I WAS HOPEING FOR A MIRACLE CURE! MANY YEARS AGO I HEARD ABOUT THESE POWDERED METAL PELLETS THAT
: : YOU CAN STICK IN THE SPARK PLUG HOLE OF THE CYLINDER WITH BAD RINGS, AND THE METAL IS SUPPOSED TO COAT THE SURFACE OF THE
: : CYLINDER WALLS TO CORRECT THE POOR RING SEAL. I SUPPOSE IT'S PROBABLY ONLY A "QUACK" FIX AND NOT A "QUICK" FIX!
: : THANKS ANYWAY...
: : MIKE

: J.C. Whitney still sells this stuff, with the little pellets and a bottle of oil additive. Now, I've never used it, and I'm not saying that it works, but you can still get it. Costs about $10.00 in my '97 JCW catalog. This could be an interesting experiment, if you use it let us know what happens.

I'm glad to have stock in a major oil company.

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