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Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400??

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JDGnut

06-14-2004 21:56:55




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I am planning on painting/sealing the floor of my new shop.. it will be new concrete. I have been looking at a few products... One of them has been the Dura Seal 400?? Any comments.. good, bad, ugly??? Another product is PSX 700... We have this on our shop floors at work... but its a little pricey... I'm open for opinions on any products... Thanks
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Sam

06-16-2004 06:35:31




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 Re: Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400?? in reply to JDGnut, 06-14-2004 21:56:55  
What about moisture that seeps into the floor from the ground below? How can the floor ever be totally dry? On rainy or humid days my shop floor gets a lot darker due to more moisture in the air. I'd love to apply a protective coating but I'm afraid it will just come right off.



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JDGnut

06-16-2004 13:14:07




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 Re: Re: Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400?? in reply to Sam , 06-16-2004 06:35:31  
Sam are U sure it is from the Ground??? or is it just condinsation??? My concrete has plastic under it to help prevent that problem.... We have another shop that during the winter.. the condinsation just drips off the tractors... I really like the PSX product.. but its pricey... We have it in our Ag Shop and its great... but you pay for it.... JDGnut



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Charles (in GA)

06-15-2004 06:25:30




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 Re: Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400?? in reply to JDGnut, 06-14-2004 21:56:55  
The problem with painting a cement floor is that new cement needs to dry out prior to painting. This can take as much as a year!. Good floor finish outfits will use a moisture meter to check the cement for moisture content. It is two electrodes and measures the conductivity across it.

I had a neighbor whose floor was still too damp after a year. He even had bought his own meter to check it with, tired of bothering the floor finish company. Finally found a leaking joint in a water pipe just outside the foundation. Fixed that and in 3 months it was dry enough.

A good epoxy finish requires the floor be roughened first. The company I am familar with uses a machine to steel shot blast the floor in a 2 ft or so wide swath and it recycles the shot. They roll around a bar magnet to pick up the stray shot. Then put on one watered down coat of paint and finally a full weight coat of epoxy. They use Tennant brand materials. Very pricey but they stay on the floor and don't come up.

If you use concrete curing/sealing compount on the floor it has to be completely removed to paint it with the epoxy. Acid is a sure fast way to shorten the life of your cement.

Charles

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JDGnut

06-15-2004 12:22:37




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 Re: Re: Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400?? in reply to Charles (in GA), 06-15-2004 06:25:30  
At work they sand blasted it... it has been over 9 years.. and looks good.. a few chips... but over all good for what it has been through...
I never thought about the moisture content... JDGnut



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MarkB

06-15-2004 03:56:57




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 Re: Shop Floor Finish?? Dura Seal 400?? in reply to JDGnut, 06-14-2004 21:56:55  
W. R. Meadows CS-309 is very reasonably priced and makes for a nice finish that is not slippery when wet. On the downside it is not fuel-resistant. Put it on the fresh concrete after troweling for a good cure. Most ready-mix outfits should have it in stock.



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