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Power drill: air or electric?

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Darren in TN

06-07-2004 07:56:43




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Howdy, all.

I need a power drill for the shop that will out-work the cordless drills we keep around. I want something that can really power through some heavy material (for example, thick walnut and oak, or thick metal.) I just got my shop air up and running and am tempted by air drills. Does anyone use them? How do they compare to a good quality electric drill? I'll appreciate any advice or experience you can relate.

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Darren

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Adam B.

06-10-2004 20:00:22




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
We have Milwaukee corded electric drills that just keep going and going.

We also have a small, pneumatic drill pistol. It's had a 3/8" bit in it for as long as I can remember. It's great for punching holes quickly, and often gets used to make pilot holes. I don't care for it in really hard materials. It spins so fast that the bits heat up quickly. Also, if it snags it can wrench out of your grip easily. Getting it going again after a snag can be troublesome -- it won't torque its way out of a stall (a larger drill might not have that problem). In light to medium cutting, it'll smoke our electric drills (literally sometimes).

If I had to choose just one or the other, it'd be the electric.

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Fred OH

06-08-2004 06:13:49




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
Use air tools where there is wet environment (safety) or explosive atmosphere (safety) or where a whole bunch of people are working together and hard to keep track of power cords and such. I suppose you could even work in a downpour (rain) or under water with an air tool and be safer than with an electric tool. The other thing about air tools is...you have to keep them oiled and be careful about getting dirt in them. I would say that the cheaper to operate would be the electric tools. Fred OH

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Charles (in GA)

06-07-2004 19:46:49




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
Virtually all of the air tool manufacturers make very heavy duty air drills. They have several stages of gear reduction and usually a side handle to help the operator control the high torque they produce, and a 1/2 chuck. These drills are not commonly found except in the aircraft industry. Why I'm not sure, but I've used some that would put the biggest, heaviest electric drill to shame.

Sioux, for one, manufactures 1/2 chuck air drills with a free speed of 700 RPM, these are slow turning drills.

You really are probably better off with an electric drill though.

Charles

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T_Bone

06-07-2004 13:16:07




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
Hi Darren,

Get a 1/2" Milwaukee magnum. It has enough torque to break a 3/4" bit going thru steel but about the same body size as a normal 3/8 motor.

I never used a air drill that was worth a dip.

T_Bone



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Dave

06-07-2004 17:14:57




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 Re: Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to T_Bone, 06-07-2004 13:16:07  
Yep the Milwaukee has a nice variable speed switch, nice and comfortable and will last a long time. If you plan on drilling much 4 inch plus wood with big auger bits you need one o them bigger boys with the low gearing, ya know, the ones you wish had wheels to carry it. The common air drills have little torque and burn bits like mad, unless your drilling small holes. For tight places once in a while, a good air drill can be an advantage because they are smaller than electric.

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Ron

06-07-2004 08:29:46




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
They are not even close. Electric motors develop their maximum torque at 0 rpm (stall speed) and are far more effective for heavy jobs.

I use a high-end 1/2" electric drill for most heavy work except concrete. Then I drag out the rotary hammer and the carbide SDS bits. Goes through concrete like your finger through warm butter. You can use them on heavy metal too but get yourself a decent set of earmuffs!

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carpenter

06-07-2004 08:22:23




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 Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to Darren in TN, 06-07-2004 07:56:43  
Darren: In my opinion all small drills turn way to fast and the variable speed drills are too hard too control speed. 2000 rpm is about right for a 1/8" bit in hardwood for trimming and thats about it. I believe thay turn fast to reduce the strength required inside and hense the cost to build. Most hand tools have way more power than thay should have. Probably becouse in marketing the tools most people that buy them don't know them and purchase based on amps or horse power. I would love a 3/8" 110 volt drill that turns 300 to 1000 rpm. Use a drill press if you can. I use a 18 volt Riobi for most things as it has the slowest low. Great for driving screws also. Now that I vented I feel better.

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carpenter

06-07-2004 08:27:29




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 Re: Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to carpenter, 06-07-2004 08:22:23  
Darren: I forgot to answer your question. If I can answer a question with a question. Do not air drills turn vary fast and will burn up your bitts and wood ?



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arthur

06-07-2004 19:13:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to carpenter , 06-07-2004 08:27:29  
for drilling the larger the bit the slower the speed there is a formula to figure an ideal drill speed on drill presses it the same for hand drills but hard to achieve on smalldrill moters



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David H.

06-07-2004 11:11:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to carpenter , 06-07-2004 08:27:29  
I'd go with electric because it's easier/more versatile to move extension cords, than air hoses/compressor. The air tools are much louder also.



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two dogs

06-07-2004 11:25:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Power drill: air or electric? in reply to David H., 06-07-2004 11:11:39  
love air tools...not for heavy work...elec for heavy thick stuff...



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