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Creative ways to stop old building from sinking???

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rod

06-03-2004 13:43:04




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I have an old building it is 15 by 25 feet and is now sitting on railway ties the problem is it keeps sinking I will put cement down eventually but can't afford it right now any idea on what to sit it on to limit the sags. It has no floor in it and is sitting on gravel. We get frost heave here so I am sure that is part of it.




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Ron

06-05-2004 04:30:59




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 Re: Creative ways to stop old building from sinkin in reply to rod, 06-03-2004 13:43:04  
I live in frost heave country too. There is no way for you to solve the problem unless you get a foundation or piers below the frost line. Stabilizing the amount of water moving through the soil (gutters, french drain, proper grading, etc.) will help but may not help enough.



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Kendall

06-04-2004 10:02:31




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 Re: Creative ways to stop old building from sinkin in reply to rod, 06-03-2004 13:43:04  
Do a Google search on "foundation repair" and you'll get an idea how the pro's do it. Here in TX seems the deep drilled pier method works the best. A 3x3x3 foot square hole is dug below the foundation at regular intervals then a 10 - 12 inch hole is drilled deep into the ground in the center of this hole. It's filled with rebar and concrete, including 2 feet of the top square hole leaving 1 foot open space below the foundation and allowed to cure for a week. Then the foundation of the building is jacked up then propped up on this sub structure using concrete cylinders (made by filling buckets with concrete) and metal shims. Seems you could devise a scaled down similar method and maybe use a post hole augar to do the drilling, although you wont be able to go the 12 to 20 feet down the foundation drill goes. But if its not as heavy as a house, maybe you wont need to go as deep. Food for thought.

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txblu

06-04-2004 09:29:43




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 Re: Creative ways to stop old building from sinkin in reply to rod, 06-03-2004 13:43:04  
I take a piece of angle iron and lag bolt it to the posts. Then use a 20ton bottle jack to jack the post out of the ground.

Then either lag bolt or barn nail "rails" on each side of the post which sit on the ground and support the weight.

If I have a long run, I block it up as I go back and forth up and down the rows of posts till I get the desired height, then install the rails (treated wood or steel).

Mark

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