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Art

05-31-2004 10:13:57




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Homelite chainsaw,33cc,16in.....less than 1yr. old, went thru app. 6 cords of wood since last sept.....Problem is---- it stopped idling. It starts, but take off the choke and throttle lock and engine dies. haven't taken off the carb. limiter caps yet but there is practcally no adjust. with them on. Anybody know, 1) why it suddenly stopped idling, and it was running real good., 2) the proper carb. adjust without the limiter caps on. Thanks, Art P.S. I checed for air leaks and found none.

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Joel

06-01-2004 13:06:29




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 Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Art, 05-31-2004 10:13:57  
Art,
I'd start with the basics first. Clean and/or replace air and fuel filters as necessary. Check plug condition and gap, make sure plug wire is making good connection. Most carb problems happen gradually. I have a Stihl 029 Super that does what you describe every time the air filter gets clogged. Good luck!



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Art to Joel....

06-01-2004 18:27:54




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 Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Joel, 06-01-2004 13:06:29  
Joel, Thanks for the reply and the help.All that stuff was checked and cleaned befor I posted a message. Turns out it was a low speed screw needed adj. but I didn't want to take those damn limiter caps off the carb. on a fairly new machine. Thanks again, Art



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Joe (Wa)

05-31-2004 20:45:51




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 Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Art, 05-31-2004 10:13:57  
I have a similar or same (23AV) saw. Have had the same problem periodically over the last 5 years.

Owner's manual TS guide:
Engine starts, runs, accelerates but will not idle.
Fix: Turn idle speed screw cw to increase idle speed.

Never worked for me. Before you do anything check that the spark plug is tight. Mine started vibrating loose after the first few tanks. I can't help but think that there is a connection. I put new plugs in it often just for thread grip.

This is how I had to do it. Do this warm.

Take the limiters off. Note the starting position and turn the idle speed screw in, whatever takes to keep it just idling. Adjust the low speed screw whichever way it takes to raise idle speed slightly and then back off idle speed screw until the chain stops or it is close to dying. Repeat that until the the idle speed screw is as near back to the original postion, the engine idles w/o stumbling and the chain is stopped.

Now you will probably have delayed acceleration. Adjust that out with the high speed screw.

Stop and start it a few times to check idle and acceleration. If ok do some sawing. You may have to adjust the low speed screw down a couple of times for chain stop.

I use the saw for limbing and light bucking, not near as much as you, but I probably do more starting & stopping. I've had to adjust this thing every year or so for the last 5 years.

Joe

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Art to Joe

06-01-2004 18:22:46




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 Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Joe (Wa), 05-31-2004 20:45:51  
Joe, Took your advice and it worked out. Low speed screw needed adj. I just don't like taking orig. equip. off a fairly new machine, but I also don't like running to a repair shop for just anything. I guess thats why they call them "limiter caps", to limit your own work! Anyway they're off for good, and those adj. screws on that walbro carb are freakin' tiny. Thanks again for the help. Art



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Mguy

05-31-2004 19:50:03




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 Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Art, 05-31-2004 10:13:57  
Art, I had the same thing happen to me on a Echo 20 ". Checked everything I knew to check, said screw it and bought a carb. Putting the carb on I found a crack in the rubber boot between the carb and the engine. Wooops. I dunno if yours is built like this but it could be something along these lines. Good Luck , Mguy.



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Art to M-guy

06-01-2004 18:15:31




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 Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Mguy, 05-31-2004 19:50:03  
M-guy, Thanks for the response. I didn't know the factory pre-sets for the carb. once I took the limiter caps off. Low speed screw adj. took care of it. I just had to guess where to start from. Art



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Van in AR

05-31-2004 17:48:15




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 Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Art, 05-31-2004 10:13:57  
If you left gas in it for several months it may be gummed up and need a rebuild kit.
Van



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Art

05-31-2004 18:19:50




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 Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Van in AR, 05-31-2004 17:48:15  
To Van; Thanks for the reply. No, the gas is fresh, with Sta-Bil gas stabilizer in it.( I swear by that stuff). It was running fine, I stopped the saw with the kill switch and after restarting, had a hard time keeping it running. One extreme to the next in 10 min. Thanks for the reply. Art



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bo

05-31-2004 18:40:26




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 Re: Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to Art, 05-31-2004 18:19:50  
Could be a variety of reasons. First off, just do a compression test to eliminate that as a problem...could be a scored cyl. Just because it ran for a bunch doesn't mean that the carb doesn't have crud in it...could be that and the carb will have to come apart. Don't know what you have for a carb,,maybe a bitsy Walbro but the needle/seat could have a piece of something in it. What you're telling me is that it's running out of gas and that limits it to the tank, lines, the pickup stone in the tank and the carb and maybe the pulse line from the cylinder.. No fast and easy answer on this one. Off chance that the flywheel key is shifting.

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Art

06-01-2004 18:10:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: chainsaw repair in reply to bo, 05-31-2004 18:40:26  
Bo, Thanks for the help and reply. It seems all it needed was a low speed screw adj. I didn't know the factory pre-sets once I take the limiter caps off. Thanks again. Art



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