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Tom

09-29-2000 18:53:38




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Anybody have any idea how to get the large air cylinder out of the ground? I'm trying to salvage a pair of Globe hoists. So far the roof's still up with 5 tons of pull. I have no idea what's down there. Has to be an air line that I hope will break off. All ideas appreciated. Major excavations prohibited. Thanks, Tom




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bbott

09-30-2000 19:32:18




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 Re: vehicle hoists in reply to Tom, 09-29-2000 18:53:38  
If you don't have access to a boom truck
and don't want the roof on your head, a piece of heavy I beam and a couple of hydraulic
jacks should move it.

Once it gets started it should come easy. That advice about an electric hoist isn't a bad idea... (depending on your circumstances).

Here's why...

Remember that with the current pollution laws having an oil resivoir (or cylinder) in contact with the ground can get real expensive if it leaks. Be very careful.

If you end up contaminating the soil with oil, you could be liable for big $$$.

Don't mean to scare you off, but the regulators go absolutely nuts with this stuff. A place near here paid a million dollar fine when they got sawdust in a drainage ditch.

--bb

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Tom

10-02-2000 18:03:40




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 Re: Re: vehicle hoists in reply to bbott, 09-30-2000 19:32:18  
Thanks, all, for the advice. One is out, other left. Roof is intact. I beam and jack did the trick. EPA concerns really aren't all that hard to address. Above ground would really be in the way and I already run a large compressor. The cylinder was over 3000# and 8 1/2' tall. Without a dump bed I don't think I'd have ever got it in the truck. Very limited space to work. Truck barely fit in the bay. And nobody got hurt. As with most things, took a little longer than I'd hoped. I've got another 200 yds of concrete to pour up here so I'll be planning the surplus for the hoist. Thanks again, Tom.

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Fred OH

09-30-2000 09:15:42




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 Re: vehicle hoists in reply to Tom, 09-29-2000 18:53:38  
Done the same thing on a Joyce Hoist years ago. Broke concrete with jack hammer and dug around it a little with a shovel, hooked up boom truck and took a strain on it till frontend came off the ground. Nothin doin! Wouldn't budge! Seems the damp clay around the cylinder held it. Dug down one side to relieve it a little and it kinda jumped out. Be careful, full of oil, it must have weighed about 500 lbs. or so. Don't want that thing jumping around with your favorite shovel down in there. My thoughts were; take a heavy I beam about ten feet long and lay it across the hole (favoring the wrecker end) and chain it to the hoist. Then lift the end of the I beam and it gives you a lot more leverage. L8R----Fred

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John Ne.

09-29-2000 22:51:20




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 Re: vehicle hoists in reply to Tom, 09-29-2000 18:53:38  
on the hoist question,, those hoists aren't just air pressure driven, they are air over oil, there is about 20-30 Gallons of heavy oil in that cylinder OR in a separate cylinder attached to the hoist below ground. The cylinder also may have a spade on the bottom 8 inches high and 30-40 inches across to keep the bottom of the hoist from kicking back with an unbalanced vehicle on it. At the least there will be 1 or 2 one inch steel pipes attached to the bottom. If you do get it out, remember to take the control valves over against the wall. I think a good wrecker could lift it straight out if the concrete is broken up around the top. Unless it is the model with the separate oil tank. Usually they were backfilled with sand/gravel, and it may take major excavation to get it all the way out. I know you want the (free) hoist but take a look at an above ground electric drive on hoist, With the cost of a big air compressor, the piping, the concrete work to set the hoist back in, the cost will come out pretty close. And an electric hoist can be moved pretty fast and easy. good luck

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teadave

09-29-2000 20:58:29




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 Re: vehicle hoists in reply to Tom, 09-29-2000 18:53:38  
pulled one 5 yrs ago. cut cement floor 1 foot around cylinder, broke out. looped chain around raised hoist,over ceiling i beam, hooked other end to raised tandem dumptruck box(real handy for gravel to fill hole) lower dump box, and VOILA!hoist goes on trailer. it worked for me!

teadave



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