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Bruce

05-20-2004 13:23:21




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I want to modify my shop vac in order to use it to remove the blown in insulation in my attic. Does anyone know how I can make my large craftsmen shop vac, suck through the pickup hose, bypass the canister and deposit the material into a large garbage bag. I know I could just pull the bag out of my canister when full, but due to the large volume I will be picking up, it would be MUCH easier to fill the bags outside of the canister.

Thanks

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uglyoldfatman

06-18-2004 13:29:32




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Take a metal 55 gal barrel that has a removable lid. $10-15.

Get 2 2" shower drains from hrdwr store. Remove grates. About $6 each.

Use saber saw to cut 2 holes in top to install drains. Use gasket to mark, and cut just outside line. Holes should be in from the side about 4-5"

Get some 1/8 X 1/8" hardware cloth, and fold it so you have a "box" about 6" sq. Cut hole in one side that shower drain will go thru and mount this on the inside of the lid. You will need to mount this before you close up the last side of the box. THIS IS THE SIDE YOU HOOK YOUR VAC TO.

If you take 2 pieces of the cloth 6"W X 18"L, you can make "TWO" bends in each, 6" from each end, and all you have to do is invert one and set it on top of the other, and then take small pieces of wire and wire them together. NEED TO MOUNT IT TO THE LID BEFORE YOU WIRE THEM UP.

Acording to what kind of hose you have, you may need a couple of 2" nipples to stick out of the top of each drain.

If you use a "T" on the side with the wire basket, you can hook two vacs to it and have a LOT of suction. Maybe too much.

Get some trash bags that are made for 55 gal drums, change out as they get full.

Good luck.

UG!

PS: I just built one like this to suck some honey bees out of were I do not want them.

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Dale in WV

05-21-2004 10:20:24




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Just read an item in Workbench magazine where they used a shop dust collection system to pull chips through a large plastic trash can, where they would fall to the bottom, and just pull the air thru to the dust collection system. I'd think if you had a dust collection system in your shop, you could interrupt the flow by installing that system and pull insulation down with its pickup hose.



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Van in AR

05-21-2004 08:46:54




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Why not try a leaf blower/yard vac? Use a gas one, more power eh, eh, eh.
Van



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Mattlt

05-21-2004 05:18:35




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Do you have a septic tank pumper in your area? One with a vacuum truck?

We've used these on several attic fires in our area. Works great to suck out smoldering insulation.

This would be a lot faster than the Shop Vac, and you wouldn't have to crawl down from the attic all the time to empty the container.



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kjm

05-20-2004 20:12:08




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Any insulation dealer around here will loan a blower as long as you buy your insulation from them for no charge. (A deposit will be required)



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GLG(TX)

05-20-2004 19:33:14




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
Go to a woodworking supply and purchase a sawdust collection lid for a trash can . line trash can with trash bags. Pull insulation thru lid and it should drop directly into bag.



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Why Remove it?

05-20-2004 19:26:32




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
I'm curious why..



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ZK(WA)

05-20-2004 15:17:55




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
What is this, the makings of a Red Green episode?



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jeff

05-21-2004 08:15:08




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 Re: Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to ZK(WA), 05-20-2004 15:17:55  
That is a great show. Is it still on? The NJ channels don't carry it for about two years now. I will not sent to thier fund drives. The best EVER show was when he made a carwash in his garage with garden hose the he ran over with the mower! I was just howling!



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Chris Vangel

05-25-2004 22:27:51




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 Re: Re: Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to jeff, 05-21-2004 08:15:08  
Red Green is on Public Television in St. Louis. A plastic trash won't work because it would suck up against the filter of a vac like my Rigid model. Also the bag can't breathe like a cloth vac bag does.



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ZK(WA)

05-21-2004 23:43:10




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 Re: Re: Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to jeff, 05-21-2004 08:15:08  
In some parts of the country it is. Watched it in San Antonio, Spokane, Bakersfield and in Pennsylvania someplace.



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Ben in KY

05-21-2004 06:05:31




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 Re: Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to ZK(WA), 05-20-2004 15:17:55  
If this works I expect it will take a lot of duct tape :)



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

05-20-2004 13:33:17




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 Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to Bruce, 05-20-2004 13:23:21  
The fins on the blower wheel of your shop vac are so close together they will clog up if you do that. You might try getting a large platic or cardboard barrel, and connect it between your shop vac and the suction hose. I would think a portable leaf vaccum would be a better idea. You could duct tape a hose on it's discharge to dump the insulation wherever you want.



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

05-20-2004 13:34:44




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 Re: Re: modify vacuum cleaner in reply to John *.?-!.* cub owner, 05-20-2004 13:33:17  
Whatever you use, just remember there is going to be a lot of air being moved with the insulation, and it will have to have a way to get out of a trash bag.



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