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Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer

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OK-AL

04-28-2004 20:27:58




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I'm having problems hefting my gas-powered grass trimmer around the property for hours at a time trimming weeds and grass. The weight of the thing is taking a toll on my old injured elbow.

Has anyone connected a power inverter to a grass trimmer (weed whacker, whatever you want to call it). I was thinking that I could buy a 700 watt power inverter, hook it up to my tractor, then plug the grass trimmer into the inverter. That way, I could use the lightweight trimmer just about anywhere on the property and not wear my arm out.

What do you guys think? My only concern would be that the trimmer might pull too much current in heavy grass or weeds.

Good idea? Let me know!!

OK-AL

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BB

04-30-2004 04:43:13




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
Keep in mind that for every 1 amp of 120 vac out of the inverter for the trimmer, you will need about 10 amps of 12 vdc from the tractor into the inverter. The old power out = power in - losses rule. Don't know how many amps your trimmer needs. But if it needs 10 amps, then you will need 100 amps from the tractor.



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Hermit

04-29-2004 16:54:15




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
I took a piece of wide, nylon strap and attached it to my trimmer with a couple of hose clamps. All the weight is dispersed across the shoulder. That may help you.



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Mike

04-29-2004 15:30:59




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
An inverter running off a garden tractor alternator will be marginal at best. Tractor alternators are only 15-20 amp max output,and won't stand the constant 20 amp draw.The batteries aren't designed for high long period draws.It won't take long to burn out the alternator,and cook the battery at that output.Even the inverters made for the high output alts. on trucks are 40-50% duty cycle. Spraying would be the cheapest alternative unless you want to be replacing the charging system,and battery a couple times a year.

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Bob

04-29-2004 11:13:58




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
Have you seen the new Briggs powered lawn tractors, John Deere and Sears, that have the 120 Volt outlet built into the tractor?

If you're going to use an inverter, it will need to be oversized, probably by a factor of two, over the rated load of the trimmer, for long life of the trimmer and the inverter. (Don't ask how I know this!

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John

04-29-2004 13:57:09




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 Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to Bob, 04-29-2004 11:13:58  
I went to that site and all they have is an inverter built into the tractor. 1000Watt unit



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just trying to help

04-29-2004 10:15:34




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
Forget the weed wacker.
Garden sprayer set to a smaller fan pattern with roundup concentrate, mixed a bit strong. Do it twice within 2 weeks, no weeds rest of summer. If you set the pattern up right, it leaves a 1" dead area. From a distance of > 10', you'll never notice the difference.
Good luck.



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Bill 52 8n

04-29-2004 10:01:03




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
How heavy are electric trimmers? I ask because the ones we use for our business only weigh 10 lbs. I know what you mean about the weight though, we've have some that weighed 12 lbs and by the end of the day there was a HUGE difference on how your arms felt. These are commercial units though, I'm sure there are lighter duty units that weigh less. Also every trimmer we have ever bought came with a shoulder strap that takes all the weight off your arms. We never use them because they get in the way of trimming tombstones, but the few times I have it works nice. It's your choice, but thought of having to keep moving the tractor and deal with the extension cord doesn't appeal to me.

Bill

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

04-29-2004 07:11:01




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
Weed Eater has a gas unit called Featherlite that weighs only slightly more (if any more) than an electric, and works great. Walmart sells them for about $50.



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Ray,IN

04-28-2004 21:10:42




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 Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-28-2004 20:27:58  
If you buy an invertor large enough to handle the running wattage of the string trimmer and leave the tractor engine running you should be fine. The better quality invertors have a low battery shutdown feature to avoid overdischarging the 12V battery.



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greenbeanman

04-29-2004 03:24:02




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 Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to Ray,IN, 04-28-2004 21:10:42  
If the amperage requirement on the tool don't exceed the output you should be fine. Start up for the trimmer will be the heaviest draw.

I have a little larger invertor unit, and I have used a 7�" circular saw powered by it. Also a 4" angle grinder.



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OK-AL

04-29-2004 08:38:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to greenbeanman, 04-29-2004 03:24:02  
Thanks, guys! I'm going to give it a try. I'll let you know how it works out.

OK-AL



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Slowpoke

04-30-2004 00:40:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to OK-AL, 04-29-2004 08:38:28  
Shoulder straps are available to take the weight off your arms. I don't think you will find an electric trimmer that has the power of a commercial straight shaft gas model. And the gas units have two hand grips. Use a trimmer that takes .095-.110 line, and you will be happy.



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T_Bone

04-30-2004 09:28:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Trimmer in reply to Slowpoke, 04-30-2004 00:40:08  
Hi OK-Al,

I would use two 6v- T105 Trojan deep cycle golf cart battery's,(about $60eh) wired in series on a hand truck,($40). I would then use a AC charger when done to recharge the batterys.

This set-up would last about 1-1/2 hrs to 2hrs on a charge using a 800w invertor.

As BB pointed out theres a good draw from the batterys to run a invertor. You would over heat a single battery and the tractor charging system would not keep up.

The T-105 are rated 205 amp hrs and will take the discharge rate of the invertor. I use my 1/2" Milwaukee drill motor and a 5" Makita side grinder on my 400w invertor with out problems.

T_Bone

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OK-AL

04-30-2004 16:49:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass Tri in reply to T_Bone, 04-30-2004 09:28:22  
I bought a 700 watt inverter from Harbor Freight today for about $100 including tax and a one-year replacement warranty. I usually don't buy a warranty, but for this application, I thought it would be a good idea.

Then I bought a Weed Eater brand electric line trimmer from Wal-Mart. About $30.00.

I mounted the inverter onto the rear fender of my 8N Ford tractor. There were already two holes in it from some previous owner. Ran the wires from the inverter to the battery. (Note: I converted the 8N to 12 volts using a Delco alternator a couple of years ago.)

Turned on the inverter and turned on the weed eater. Volla! It worked! My wife and I trimmed about 300 feet of fence line today. No problems except that the ammeter went pretty high when the trigger on the weed eater was pulled. But the inverter never got hot. I may have to put a larger alternator on the tractor or a bigger battery. (Or just charge the battery up. The tractor hasn't had much use and the battery could be low.)

Anyway, I'm happy. I just have to remember that i'm using 110 volts which can kill. Also, the inverter does NOT have any moisture protection, so it absolutely can not be used in wet conditions. Shouldn't be a problem, because I don't mow or do much of anything in the rain.

Thanks to everyone for their comments. This is a great site.

OK-AL

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Ray,IN

04-30-2004 20:56:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Power Inverter - Grass in reply to OK-AL, 04-30-2004 16:49:23  
Keep in mind that auto alternators do not have much output at very low RPM's a tractor operates within and keep the tractor throttle about half open. You may verify this by reading an article on 12V conversions here in the "articles" section.



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