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Loader side arm weld broken

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Keith

04-26-2004 16:51:11




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I have a Case 450 loader that was used and abused over the last few years. One side of the loader arm has broken its weld. The arm looks to be about 1/2" thickness and the broken weld appears to be a hollow 1/4" thick 12" tube butt welded to the arm. What welding rod should I use and should this be plated for reinforcement. A previous repair lasted only about 25 hours.
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T_Bone

04-27-2004 13:55:09




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 Re: Loader side arm weld broken in reply to Keith, 04-26-2004 16:51:11  
Hi Keith,

Sounds like there's metal fatique in the loader arm. Depends on how much stress determines if the arm should be replaced.

I would relieve all pressure off the arm, then heat the effected area (plus) to about 1200� then let air cool. I would then clean the area well and install a plate well over the effected area then weld with 7018.

If the arm was easy to replace then I would take option now as the above repair may not last. I'm assumming the first repair was done correctly. If the first repair was done correct then it's time to replace the arm this time.

I the existing weld cracked on the toe of the weld, that would also indicate that fatique is the problem and the arm needs replaced. Plate the new arm before the gusset is installed. I doubt if the opposite side will last very long if a design problem exists, so maybe it's time to do both sides.

Of course then it also could be a designed weak point for abuse of the loader. If that is the case (pun intended) then you will likely break some where else next time the loader is abused, maybe causing extensive damnage to the loader or tractor.

This really all guess work on my end as I don't know your loader model nor it's intended design relief when overloaded.

T_Bone

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Wayne

04-26-2004 21:09:04




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 Re: Loader side arm weld broken in reply to Keith, 04-26-2004 16:51:11  
Personally I'd use 7018 from start to finish. I've repaired alot of loader arms, buckets, blades, etc over the years and have never used anything but 7018 material be it rod or wire and have never had anything break back loose. If the crack is in a place it can be plated then by all means grind down the weld bead and plate it with a plate at least 1/4 thick welded on all around the outside. If possible I also like to cut a couple small holes in a plate like this an inch or two to each side of the crack/break, and plug weld it also. I don't claim to be any kind of welding guru or expert, but like I said I've never had anything I've repaired break back in the same place. They've broken them in the next week point, but never my repair.

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SHeiserman

04-26-2004 19:40:29




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 Re: Loader side arm weld broken in reply to Keith, 04-26-2004 16:51:11  
I'd use 1/8" 6010 to fill in all gaps and for penetration. That will give you a clean base to then run 3/32 or 1/8 7018. Grind and wire wheel area to be welded clean and smooth. Not sure what this looks like, so I don't know that a plate would be necessary. If there are vertical welds to be made, I'd run uphill.



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