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Magnet strength - storage

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Dick

04-23-2004 08:21:51




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Will a hand magnet lose strength over time and what is correct method of storage?




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MAC,IL

04-25-2004 07:22:06




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
I just dont know, but when I was a small boy we lived next to a telephone guy, he would give me horseshoe shaped magnets and I think they came out of old crank phones, kept them for years. Then when I was about 10, my sis gave me a small pair of scottie dogs, one black and one white that had magnet bases, I am 70 and still have them in my "treasure box" magnets work just like they did when I got them.

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greenbeanman

04-25-2004 06:35:06




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
Magnets are a lot of fun to play with. More so when I was a kid.

Some time last year I discovered my old magnets from childhood. They were in an old Sucrets metal box, clinging together. All small magnets of various sizes and shapes. All seemed to still have their strength after these 45-50 years. Whee.

Expect someday I'll order some of those "rare earth" magnets off of Ebay to play with. I wonder what those magnets do to the postal sorting machines?

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txblu

04-24-2004 07:58:51




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
Longevity in magnets is dependent upon 2 things: material and environment. I support all the answers in the other posts.

A soft material is easily magnetized and easily demagnetized. You want soft materials (carbon steel) for electromagnets (so they let go when the juice is turned off), and hard materials for permanent magnets. Alnico 5 and 8 were the preferred materials that showed a willingness to accept magnetism and reluctance to give it up. But now we have ceramic magnet materials (Samariam Cobalt is popular) that do not display one undesirable trait of the previous materials. It does not demagnetize by beating on it nor placing metallic objects on it and pulling them off. Additionally, it can accept more magnetism (gauss) in a given dimension so they are smaller for a given gauss level....not cheaper.

Microwave power tubes (like ones used in wideband cell phone towers) have gone to using these ceramics as the preferred material.

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Roger/IA

04-23-2004 18:33:57




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
Magnets like those in magnetos can loose power, and they can be re-magnetized by a special tool/machine. Loose magnets use a "keeper" to retain the magnetism. For a "horseshoe" magnet, it is a piece of steel that goes across both ends of the shoe.

For ceramic magnets, I don't have a clue.

For what it is worth.

Roger



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phddan

04-23-2004 17:46:14




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
was told in trade school that the only way to for a magnet to lose its power is to heat it or beat it.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

04-23-2004 17:30:16




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
Occasionally it is possible for a magnet to lose some strength from a strong jarring, . Supposedly messes up the alignments of the moleculear structure. So my father always said to never hit a magnet with a hammer blow.



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Rusty Jones/ The Mower Ma

04-23-2004 14:56:28




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 Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Dick, 04-23-2004 08:21:51  
I've had one sticking to the inside of my truck roof, and another one sticking to the compressor tank for 10 years, and they seem as good as new! RJ



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Brian G. NY

04-24-2004 17:06:41




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 Re: Re: Magnet strength - storage in reply to Rusty Jones/ The Mower Ma, 04-23-2004 14:56:28  
You know Rusty, 'seems like when I was in High School ( a Lonnnnng time ago) we were told to store a magnet attached to a piece of steel; ' don't remember why, but I do the same thing; stuck to the inside of my truck cab, to my tool box cover, up against the breaker panel box and all sorts of places. They never seem to lose their strength.



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