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ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and air c

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Garry

04-23-2004 07:57:09




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I'm trying to rebuild this Troy Built tiller.
Anybody know what kind it is?
I think all I need is a carberetor and air cleaner

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jdemaris

04-25-2004 14:27:09




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
I've never been impressed with any of the Troybuilt tillers, but I have a few Horse models that I've used for 30 years. They hold up okay, just not very well engineered. The old Ariens Rocket was a much better machine, and the best is probably the new BCS tillers. They have MUCH better design than the Troybuilts. Anyway, in regard to your engine. It's a very common unit and parts are easy to get. I can't imagine why you need a new carburetor, but that's up to you. That carb uses a metal needle valve, and the seat is rubber and is easily replaceable. The floats often go bad in those machines, the seats tend to stick. All the parts are cheap. If you look on the engine, probably stamped on the recoil housing, there will be an "H" number - like H50, H60, or H70, etc. H50 is five horse, H60 is 6 horse, etc. Following that, there will be a spec. number. That is what Tecumseh Power-Products calls a "medium frame" engine, and is made in ratings from 4 to 7 horsepower. If you have no history on the engine, I certainly wouldn't replace it without looking at it. Ten minutes work you can pull the head off and peek at the piston and bore. If it's not all scored up, and the rod is tight - fix the engine and it will last you for many years. An experienced person can rebuild the carb., put new points and condensor, and do a valve job on that engine in about two hours and $40 in parts (and maybe less).
Same carb. parts fit all that series engine regardless of the horsepower.

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Garry

04-26-2004 11:17:31




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 Re: Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb a in reply to jdemaris, 04-25-2004 14:27:09  
Wow! Thanks for all the GREAT feedback guys. I think the aircleaner needs replacement for sure. Based on all the other feedback, I'm going to start working on it and see what happens.

THANKS again for all the good info!



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VanWA)

04-23-2004 17:17:43




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
Gary; I bought a new "horse moded, 7HP, new in 1978. At that time biggest one made! Been a wonderful machine, built like a tank. You should have no problem getting parts for it, the company really use to be good, but maybe that is all different now----to bad, as it was a quality product!!



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Rusty Jones/ The Mower Ma

04-23-2004 14:30:01




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
Looks like your machine is the 2-speed forward and reverse model. I think you ought to inspect the engine for wear or damage, see if it has compression, if so, drain out the old oil, get a newer carburetor for it, (there are some out there in mower land-somebody ought to have one that'll fit!) put in some new oil, new spark plug, Try pulling the starter rope. Oh, squirt a little light oil into the spark plug hole, let it set for a while, then pull the starter rope to distribute the oil. Then install the new plug. Make sure the shut-off wire isn't in the shut-off position, blow some compressed air down around the cooling fins, lubricate any moving parts. to put gear oil in the transmission, remove the tee-handle that sticks up behind the engine! Then there is, on the left side of transmission gear box, a pipe plug. Take out this plug, and, if it needs gear oil, pour it in thru the hole that the T-handle came out of, until it runs out of the pipe plug hole, then put it back together. Put some fresh gas in the tank (assuming that it is usable) And try to start it. You never know--it may try to start-may not, but the preceding are some things to do to get it started! I had one given to me-had a broken connecting rod. I managed to get a new one, installed it, and it runs really great. If you do get it running, contact me, and i'll send some more instructions. Rusty Jones

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Peter

04-23-2004 10:52:43




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
TroyBilt of Troy, NY filed for bankrupcty a few years ago.

MTD bot the jigs/spare parts - they sell under the TroyBilt name but machines are not the same as good old ones



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CJ

04-23-2004 10:52:34




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
It says Tecumseh on the engine right in the picture you posted!! Go to a small engine repair place, and get what you need!! OR, take the carb along and have them rebuild it for you. CJ



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Art in Weedsport

04-23-2004 10:41:34




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
Other than the 90* bend to the air filter it looks a lot like the carb on my 5hp Troybuilt. Mine is probably 8-10 years old. It looks like the carb from mine would bolt right on, and I recently bought parts for mine, from the local small engine repair house.



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Andy

04-23-2004 09:36:57




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
Looks just like my Troy-Bilt Econo-Horse. Not to be confused with the Horse model, which is a bit bigger and has many different parts. This model is more like the Tuffy and smaller models. I replaced my Tecumseh with another one and it still runs great...



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old

04-23-2004 09:21:17




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
You would probably be better off getting a differant engine for it. We had the same engine on our troy but threw it away a 20 years ago because it was junk. put a kohler on and it has run well since. The tiller we have was new in 1970 still tills the garden every year



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Dave Sherburne, NY

04-23-2004 08:14:37




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 Re: ID of old Troy Built tiller - needs carb and a in reply to Garry, 04-23-2004 07:57:09  
I needed a carb for my Troybilt found it was almost as cheap to buy an engine from Northern Tool Which I did. Try this site http://www.jaykelly.com/



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