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MOBILE HOME USE tires

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Shane

04-17-2004 21:37:20




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Had a moble home chassis given to me with which I built a gooseneck trailer. Was looking over the tires while repacking the bearings and noticed 4 are "Mobil Home Use Only" and 2 are not. What is the difference? The load rating for the two kinds were the same. All have about 90% tread and look good but don't want to use them if there is a safety issue with the "Mobil Home" tires.




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Taylor Lambert

04-25-2004 14:51:18




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
I have a friend that taught me a lesson with mobile home tires. THey are supposed to be inflated to 90 PSI it says it on the sides. I built a trailer 10 years ago that had them on it and i couldnt keep a tire on it He wold me that and i havent had to replace one yet Ive ben over 4000 miles towing a backhoe and not had any problems. But if you already have trailer axles you can buy an adapter kit to put 16 inch wheels on it with an 8 hole pattern.

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tinman

04-18-2004 19:34:39




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
Supposedly WI has a rule against mobil home frames being used as a trailer. The tires are marked mobil home use only because of liability reasons. And they make them so cheap now(tires)



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Red Tom

04-18-2004 18:53:54




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
I had mobile home tires on trailer ten or so years ago and they were okay for about a year then when I put a serious load on them they fell apart one by one. The summer heat really killed them fast. Then I bought 12 ply 8x14.5 lo-boy tires.



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Bus Driver

04-18-2004 13:26:45




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
In NC, the use of mobile home tires for any purpose other than on a mobile home is illegal if the trailer is towed by a licensed vehicle. If on a farm trailer towed by a tractor, no legal problem. Not sure if the regulation is Federal, but it is enforced in NC. The fine costs more than one LowBoy tire costs.



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john in la

04-18-2004 07:29:02




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
While I do not claim to be a tire expert or know every DOT rule let me try to add what I do know.

Before 1998 the DOT allowed mobile homes to be transported on tires overloaded by as much as 50% over the tires weight rating. So since a mobile home manufacture buys so many tires the tire company was making tires just for them. They could make these tires cheaper because they were for one time use only. The wear rating of the tire could be less because after 1000 miles they were thrown away or left on home. The weight rating could be matched to the house because they knew what the house weighted and was allowed to over load them by so much. It would be like making a 20" truck tire to car tire standards. Since most people do not look at the weight rating on tires they required these tires to be marked For Mobile Home Use Only.

Then in 2000 the DOT changed the rule to allow overloading of tires by only 18% and then only for 2 years. So in 2002 it changed to no overloading at all. They still allow the tire manufacture to make tires just for the mobile home industry that is made for a specific home weight but it can not be overloaded. By increasing the load rating on the tires it in turn increased the wear rating but it may not be to the point of regular trailer tires so they may still be marked for mobile home use. This is why the tires wear so fast and if you have older tires (pre 1998) they blow out. They are not made to haul the weight. Because of these new rules and the increase cost of the tires they have be reclaiming these tires for more use. They have companies now that go out and remove axles and tires from new home deliveries and return them to the home manufacture for more use. In fact if you want to keep your axles and tires the charge you extra for the home.

As to the DOT rule for using them on regular trailers I know of none. In fact if any one does know where it says you can not use mobile home tires I would like to see that rule. Where the DOT will get you though is if you use a mobile home tire or any tire that is not rated for the load you have per load ratings on the tire. It is just a lot easier to do using mobile home tires.

For some added interesting reading follow these links.
24 CFR Part 3280 Dot rule 393.75 Tires

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mj

04-18-2004 09:45:21




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 Re: Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to john in la, 04-18-2004 07:29:02  
I've got an old (30 years+) 24' tandem axle flatbed that I haul hay, tractors, small buildings, steel, culvert, etc. on..... it's still got the tires (mobile home) and rims (mobile home) and axles (mobile home) and brakes (mobile home) and springs (mobile home) that came on it when I bought it 18 years or so ago. Now I'm afraid to use it..... NOT!



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BFO

04-18-2004 05:19:44




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
The DOT and the MTO have clearly stated that mobile home components not be used on anything else but mobile homes, look it up.



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Shane

04-18-2004 08:12:12




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 Re: Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to BFO, 04-18-2004 05:19:44  
MTO... Are you in Michigan? That is one screwed up state when it comes to DOT and such, glad I live 20 miles south of that border!



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Steve-Maine

04-18-2004 03:07:32




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 Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Shane, 04-17-2004 21:37:20  
I hads the same question a few years ago when I built a tri-axle trailer. I called the Stste Police and they at that time had no problem with the mobile home tires. The only thing I noticed they don't last too many miles. I can buy tires and wheels locally off new mobile homes for around $30 to $35 each.



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bo

04-18-2004 06:08:02




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 Re: Re: MOBILE HOME USE tires in reply to Steve-Maine, 04-18-2004 03:07:32  
They're designed for one time use. Friend put them on a boat trailer and it sits alot. The tires blew up one at a time over a period of two years. Just blew up..don't know why. I mean, blew up...ripped the casings all to heck...You could spend $35/tire or $100/tire for the right ones. The differenc is $65/tire and that's the price of peace of mind.



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