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cooker308

04-16-2004 04:41:57




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What brand of anti sieze compound is best, some are gray, and some are copper colored? Just looking for allround use.




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Fred Kobs

04-19-2004 16:49:48




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
you can't beat permatex for brand name. the grey is great for gen. purp. use and the copper is a great conductor and corrosion preventer for battery cable ends.



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MarkB

04-17-2004 04:28:44




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
I bought a bottle of the grey Permatex stuff twenty years ago and I still haven't used it all up. Works great.



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Charles (in GA)

04-16-2004 18:06:51




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
I work for a major airline as a mechanic, we use alot of the copper based type and it works well. We also use a graphite based stuff.

For general, around the shop use on wheel studs, spark plugs, most any bolt you want to come out years from now, the silver/grey stuff that Permatex sells in the autoparts places works great.

Be absoulutely sure you do not get it on the electrodes of spark plugs, put a very thin coat on the threads and keep it off the bottom most or two, threads. It will short out a plug.

Charles

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Bus Driver

04-16-2004 16:21:27




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
Most likely, the gray/silver is nickel based, should say so on the container. The copper colored is copper/graphite. I have a can of lead based, probably not available any more, was originally used on threaded electrical conduit to maintain conductivity through the threads. For tractors and equipment, I like the nickel best.



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EIL

04-16-2004 06:09:22




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
I have always used the grey Never Sieze and it never failed me before, no matter what the metal. But remember, don't get it in your eyes or you'll never sees again!!!!! That's one of those jokes you tell the new guys.



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Fern(Mi)

04-16-2004 04:58:38




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
Used diferent ons over yrs. They all work pretty well. Probably go with the copper/aluminim anti-sieze products. With two metal fillers got different between tightening servaces to fill more needs. Trying to say, ya got copper and/or aluminum between irons. Copper between aluminums. Aluminum bewteen brasses.
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buickanddeere

04-16-2004 04:55:30




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 Re: Never sieze in reply to cooker308, 04-16-2004 04:41:57  
What temperature and enviroment?



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Ol Chief

04-16-2004 20:16:58




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 Re: Re: Never sieze in reply to buickanddeere, 04-16-2004 04:55:30  
I think that the old lead based product was best on all low temperature applications( I.E. )below 200 F. It was used exclusively On shipboard on anything that had to be taken apart after exposure to salt water.It would stay in place for years on threaded surfaces.We used to purchase white lead paste in oil ( boiled linseed ) and add raw linseed oil and lubricating oil. Neither of these will dry for ages. When lead paste was difficult to obtain we purchased it from Canada.Zinc paste was tried but never worked as well as lead paste.This was old technology.I do not think anyone has come up with an equal substitute.The other anti- seize products are used on ships everywhere.The copper works ok on hi-temps.but I prefer the grey nickel stuff because it works on 1500 degrees and possibly a lot more.Used it on high pressure steam applications every day.I still use on every thing thatI assemble.I never inquired about the cost difference cause about four oz. can costs me less than $7.00 and it goes a long way.If you can lay your hands on some white lead use it on any cold application and you will never be disappointed.

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