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richard

04-01-2004 07:09:24




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I have never used a torch and I'm just try to get my ducks in a row so I don't burn down my pasture. Any help comment will be appreciated.

I've got a victor torch. After reading the directions this is what I think happens.

1. Attach the regulators to bottles.
2. Turn the regulators all the way on (counterclockwise)and crack the valves on each tank and then close them up.
3. Attach the lines, and crack the tanks again to blow out the lines. Turn them off.
4. Attach the torch handle.
5. Open the Oxy knob and adjust the fuel regulator, right??? the fuel has to be flowing to adjust it, right? 7-8 psi Ok for 2-3/8 pipe fence?
6. Do the same with the oxygen.

I understand you always have the oxygen tank valve fully open and the fuel tank valve open maybe a turn. Is this correct?

For cutting I've heave anywhere from 50-70 psi for Oxygen. What everyone's opinion???

Thanks in advance

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Larry in Pa.

04-02-2004 05:44:07




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
All the posts are good advice, I would also recommened the check valves. The other bit of safety equipment you need to remember is ALWAYS use the safety goggles, for ANY job. Good Luck



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Bill 52 8n

04-01-2004 21:47:31




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
At college we were taught:

1. Chain tanks to wall or cart, then remove caps.
2. Crack the valves on each cylinder to clean the valve seats and reclose.
3. Attach the regulators and crack the vavles and reclose again. This time check to see if the pressure on the high side drops. If it does, you have a leak.
4. Attach the gas lines and hook up the torch
5. Open the Oxygen valve all the way, open the acetylene tank 1 turn.
6. Set oxygen to 3-6 psi, acet. 3-5 psi for welding (really depends on tip size)
7. purge lines
8. Check torch and hose fittings for leaks with bubble solution.

To light, turn the gas on and light. Adjust so the flame looks "feathered" (like 70's hairstyles), if there is a gap between the flame and torch turn it down. Turn the oxy on till you get a "neutral" flame. As you turn it on, you'll see an outer blue cone on an inner cone, turn the oxy on till the two meet and its set. For cutting set the oxy to 35-40 psi and the acet. to 5-7 psi.

HTH
Bill

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Fred Kobs

04-01-2004 20:47:51




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
P.S. a 1/4 to 1/2 turn is plenty open for acc. tank. Trust me that is far enough to have to close in an emergency. Fred.



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Fred Kobs

04-01-2004 20:45:31




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
As long as you're at it I STRONGLY suggest investing $20 for a set of check valves at the regulators and I like to have a set on the head also. They saved me once years back and I was a believer before. If the mix tube goes haywire or you accidently burn thru a hose at least the tanks are isolated from blow back. If you want real fancy, they make them in quick coupler style also, so you unplug at the regs. and roll hose up. Just my 2 pesos worth. One other thing, always have a good fire extinguisher very handy no matter if in the pasture or shop. Very handy tool, just commands a lot of respect. Fred.

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JM

04-01-2004 14:59:07




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
Ben hit it on the head. but i will repeat and add my own two cents. back the regulators out all the way, NEVER put lubricant of any kind on the (oxygen especially) fittings, rule of thumb, size of tip # set the acetylene around that numerical value in psi on the downstream guage. Dont lite with a butane or other cigarette lighter, use a striker.

Get a nice clean acetylene flame (how much depends on what you are doing), but for cutting keep the flame attached to the tip and give it enough gas to get rid of the black smoke. Have the oxy valve on the handle open wide, crack open the secondary valve on the torch and adjust until the inner flame burns nice little cone shaped (lite) blue flames at the tip. Dont over oxidize. Then check your flame when the blast lever is depressed. Dont cut so that hot metal blows onto your hoses. Dont burn near anything remotely flammable, the splatter goes pretty far,so be careful and good luck

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bill b va

04-01-2004 09:47:03




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  

write yourself a check list one step at a time . post here for comments and / or corrections . then follow it until you have it down pat..... .... step #1 . crack tank valves briefly to clear anything from the valve opening before connecting hoses . ( i once screwed up a regulator by not doig this even though i knew to do it . a mud dober had built a nest in the opening and wasn't visable. the dirt got in the regulator diaphgram and i had unregulated gas

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Jim/41_9N

04-01-2004 09:14:27




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
Richard,

Please SAFETY FIRST! You really need to fully understand what you are doing before doing it. You should consider either spending time with someone knowelable, or even taking a class. There are proper sequences for opening and closing a station. Also you need to understand flashbacks. Your equipment should have flashback arrestors and check valves. Regulators should always be backed all the way out (closed) before opening cylinders. Do not stand in front of regulators when opening. Remember, a full Oxygen cylinder can have 2200 psi or more! Yes pressures are set with torch valves open. Around 5 PSI. As Ben stated, NEVER run acetylene at or above 15 psig.

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Ben in KY

04-01-2004 08:04:13




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 Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to richard, 04-01-2004 07:09:24  
Read tha manual that came with the Victor torch ! It gives a pretty good idea of what safe operation, pressures, etc to set for the tip you are using. NEVER set Aceteline above about 14 LBS. It can/will become unstable and do dangerous violent things. Oxygen is usually set around or below 25 lbs for cutting and lower for brazing. Also never use oil on your line fittings it can burn/explode when combined with the oxygen. Read the instructions and be safe. One other thing the aceteline cylinder must be upright when using. and for about 1 hour or so before using. Don't worry about setting the field on fire so much, worry about your saftey, torch sets can be deadly when improperly used.

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Richard

04-02-2004 05:21:07




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 Re: Re: oxy torch set-up.... in reply to Ben in KY, 04-01-2004 08:04:13  
Thanks everyone. I did watch a person a couple of times do some cutting with a torch, so I have a basic idea on the sequence of things. Just need some more review with all you guys.

The torch I bought has check valves, flash arrestors in them.

Again thanks to everyone.



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