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Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck!

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Irv LaLonde

03-13-2004 18:19:41




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I bought a new Kobalt tool box today. I got it home and started to put the wheels on. I did not get far. The nut plates were welded out of position! The holes were almost entirely closed up. I took it back immediately, and they were ok with that, but what a pia! 20 plus miles, a bunch of lifting and moving stuff around, and back I go! - This sucks! The packeging had a Made in America thing on it. Inside the bottom drawer was a slip of paper that said "Made in China". I will be going to Sears Sunday. My 2c Irv

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Grant Hammond

06-23-2005 06:54:33




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
I purchased a Kobalt tool box from Lowe's and I will put it up against any of the junk craftsman boxes. I have a 40 inch roll around with matching top box and I love it. Roller drawers work great !!!!



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greg

03-18-2004 16:45:04




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
they are very expensive, but snap on is best. mine have gone through several moves and all kinds of abuse, but 16 years later they still work great. i can stand in the drawers, and im 260 pounds.



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Cliff Neubauer

03-15-2004 05:44:12




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
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I would look at the CPL boxes, they are made by a welding shop in Montezuma, Nebraska and are 10x better than a drawer type tool box. We have their small model that holds standard tools from 1/4" up to 1" but their big model will hold up to 1 1/4" standard tools as well as up to I think 32mm, they will hold 3 sets of combination wrenches plus standard and deep well sockets in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drive. They are designed so most of the tools hang on laser cut pegs and when the door closes it locks the tools on the pegs so even if you turn it upside down the tools cannot fall out of place. These boxes were originally designed for service trucks and are built from I think 12 guage steel with full welds instead of spot welds. We have both an older Snap-On and a newer Crafsman roll around tool boxes in our shop but after getting the CPL for our service truck last fall I hope to replace the roll around boxes in the shop with a CPL.

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ShepFL

03-17-2004 19:57:13




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 03-15-2004 05:44:12  
I like that layout. My wrenches and sockets are all layed out flat. My stuff is shadow lined as I used to work aviation. Had to account for every tool at the end of every shift. A habit I have carried over into my sons tool box.

Saved the pic for future refernce. Thanks for sharing.



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CNKS

03-15-2004 18:55:27




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 03-15-2004 05:44:12  
I hought that was Montezuma,KS. I live about 50 miles from there, never seen one but have seen their ads on TV. Perhaps there is a Montezuma, NE that makes them also?



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CNKS

03-15-2004 18:56:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to CNKS, 03-15-2004 18:55:27  
I also need spelling lessons!



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Kennedy Box Fan

03-14-2004 08:41:19




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
Kennedy has already suffered from cheap China stuff. They have filed chapter 11 See link below



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Irv

03-14-2004 15:56:45




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Kennedy Box Fan, 03-14-2004 08:41:19  
Thanks for the replies everybody - and thanks for the link about Kennedy - I have Kennedy tool boxes at work. The only place Kennedys are sold around here is industrial supply places. The Kobalt boxes looked ok, but I wasn't going to fix one before I used it! Thanks again. Irv



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Chris

03-14-2004 08:05:27




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
I have two craftsman tools boxes and wouldn't trade them for the world. One is for my shop at home and the other is a big sucker for work and school. It has the grip latch drawers and the ball bearing slides. You talk about slick. Think I got both the top and bottom boxes for around $1000 on sale. Best money I have ever spent.



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Charles (in GA)

03-14-2004 07:24:22




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
I work in a very large aircraft maintenance facility with hundreds of other mechanics and their (mostly red, a few blue or other color) tool boxes. We use our rollaways hard. Almost everyone has put them on angle iron frames with casters, as virtually everyone has two boxes on a frame or a box and a home made from aluminum "side box" with a place for storing cans and bottles, etc.

The best boxes are the name brands, Proto, Kennedy, Waterloo, older Craftsman ones, and the MAC and Snap-on ones. Proto had a cracking problem at one time, due to metal weight and location of critical spot welds. They came in and inspected everyones boxes, took orders for new ones and later brought in a semi full, free of charge. I think they even let the guys keep the cracked ones to take home to the garage or basement.

Every maker has different grades of boxes, I have two identical Proto boxes on a frame, they were a discontinued model. very heavy steel and with rolled edges on the drawers. I think they didn't sell well, too expensive, and discontinued them.

Waterloo is the lightest and cheapest quality of the good boxes, but they are OK for the average user, especially if you are not rolling it around over air hoses, etc. Alot of guys at work have them and have no problems with them.

Check with the industrial suppliers, Cameron & Barkley, Even Grainger and MSC. Ask about sales and closeouts, discplay models, etc. Go to the box mfg web sites and find out who the distributors in you area are and call them.

Charles

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Mark

03-14-2004 07:23:26




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
This is indicative of most of the products sold today. Everyone shops price,not quality. Most of the products sold at the big discounters are usually consumer quality,which is 2-3 grades below commercial or professional quality.You get what you pay for. You want a good box,buy a Kennedy,a new or used Snap-on or Mac box.Even the "pro-grade" Craftsman boxes can't hold a candle to a 5 year old Snap-on or Mac box.

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John Ne.

03-14-2004 09:42:37




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Mark, 03-14-2004 07:23:26  
you got that right, while a craftsman box is okay, check the shipping weight of their big one vs. a same size mac/matco/snapon box, the box off the truck will outweigh the sears box by 300lbs. that extra weight is all in the frame, and heavier base.



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Rauville

03-14-2004 05:25:16




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
Walked through Sam's Store yesterday, and saw that even "Jesse James / West Coast Choppers" has his name on tool boxes with a red, white and blue "Made in America" sticker on the front. Looked at the boxed ones, and the boxes are marked "China", like most of the other junk in the store. What are they doing...putting stickers on their display models, or have they named a town in China...AMERICA?



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Rick

03-14-2004 04:22:23




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
Try getting a Kennedy tool box, I think they are still made in the USA. Your right most of the stuff from China is Junk. A number to get the Kennedy boxes is J-L industrial supply 1-800-521-9520.



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Wayne

03-13-2004 23:40:53




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
Hey Irv, are you sure the box said "Made" in America, or could it have been "Packaged" in America. Had a buddy several years back that was into trucking. He said he had carried a load of TVs out of Mexico to a loading dock in the US. From there they were packaged in their final box, which said "Packaged in the USA". Most people would look at he box and see the USA and be satisfied that they were getting a US made product when it was really made in Mexico....the only thing done in the US was packaging in a box...which was probably made in China.....

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joe

03-14-2004 03:44:01




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Wayne, 03-13-2004 23:40:53  
I also worked for a trucking company and would bring in boxes full of t-shirts made across the water and boxes of tag that said MADE IN AMERICA next day would haul out t-shirts with tags stiched in them.



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Joe (Wa)

03-16-2004 19:37:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to joe , 03-14-2004 03:44:01  
Hmmmmm. Next thing ya know that "MADE IN AMERICA" on the box will be in chinese.



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Davis In SC

03-13-2004 22:12:55




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 Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Irv LaLonde, 03-13-2004 18:19:41  
Sad to say, but that is typical of the junk from China... If all of us would refuse to buy it, perhaps things would be made in the USA again. I buy very few things new anymore. Most tools I buy now are used ones at flea markets.On subject of tool boxes, Kennedy boxes are still made in Van Wert Oh. USA. Their boxes might cost a little more, but will last a lifetime.



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Vern-MI

03-14-2004 08:02:39




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 Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Davis In SC, 03-13-2004 22:12:55  
Kennedy tool boxes work fine as long as you first reinforce the base where the casters attach. At the place where I worked every one of the Kennedys had to have the bases fixed because they deformed where the casters attached. Also the original wheels are junk and had to be replaced with hard phenolic 2" X 5" Rose ball bearing casters.



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03-14-2004 09:33:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Kobalt tool boxes - Yuck! in reply to Vern-MI, 03-14-2004 08:02:39  
My brother used to be a Cornwell tool dealer and He told me that there were only 3 major toolbox makers in the US. I got two bottom boxes from Him that were just alike but one was Mac and one was Cornwell. They were both made by Metal Box Corp [ MBC ] and both are high quality boxes. I think Snap On also uses some MBC boxes but not sure.



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