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Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best Type

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Dave

03-12-2004 04:51:38




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Hello what is the best type of Blades to use in a metal Cutting VERTICAL Bandsaw ?? how many Teeth per inch and what speed? mainly be Cutting material from 1/8 to maybe 1/2 inch




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9NJoe

03-15-2004 12:18:36




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
I use a brand called agressor by kenemetal. You can get them from enco. They are the toughest blades I have ever seen. Put starrett bimetal to shame.

Joe



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Charles (in GA)

03-12-2004 20:35:09




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
The variable pitch blades, such as Starret makes, such as a 14-18, where the teeth per inch alternates from 14 tpi to 18 tpi seem to work well.

Charles



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John Garner

03-12-2004 12:19:07




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
Dave --

Cutting speed will depend on what you are cutting; the rule of thumb cutting speed for high-carbon steel is 40-50 ft/min, for low-carbon steel or gray cast iron is 80-100 ft/min, and for aluminum is 250-300 ft/min when using a blade with teeth made from "high speed steel". If you're going to stick with a carbon-steel blade, cut those speeds in half.

As others have mentioned, you need to keep 3 teeth "in the work" at all times to avoid stripping the teeth off of the blade.

If you are cutting aluminum or other soft, free-cutting metals you can use a "hook tooth" blade, but steel and iron want a conventional not-hooked tooth profile. If you cut both materials with the same blade, stick with the conventional tooth.

A bi-metal blade -- one with a high-speed-steel teeth welded to a soft steel body -- is preferred for probably 95% of normal bandsaw cutting.

A number of different companies make this type of blade, and they are generally comparable in quality and price. Morse, Starrett, American Saw (Lenox brand), Do-All, Simonds, Sandvik, and probably several others whose names escape me now are all good.

John

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Slowpoke

03-12-2004 11:01:33




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
Speed should be around 80-180 feet/minute depending on material type. Maybe more if you have a production saw and the correct blade. Charts are available in machinery handbooks and machine shop practice textbooks.



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Fred OH

03-12-2004 09:03:44




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
Raker tooth set...keep a couple on hand, coarse for the thicker metals, fine for thin stuff...bearing in mind that you should have 2or3 teeth in contact with work at all times. Cheaper blades are flexible back and high carbon teeth...good for general purpose cutting. Bi-metal blades are about double or so in price and are more for production shops...and are really good in comparison to high carbon...but if you have an accident and break one...you'll probably have a dent in your saw. Fred OH

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Slowpoke

03-12-2004 10:54:34




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 Re: Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades b in reply to Fred OH, 03-12-2004 09:03:44  
Or your wallet.



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kraigWy

03-12-2004 06:30:21




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 Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades best in reply to Dave, 03-12-2004 04:51:38  
I forgot the name of them but they are the white blades. A little pricy but not when you concider how long they last compaired to the other. Number of teeth depends on what you are cutting, you need, I think, 3-4 teeth on the metal at all times. I think you will find that the 24 teeth per inch blades will take care of most of your cutting needs.



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T_Bone

03-12-2004 10:58:12




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 Re: Re: Metal Cutting ,VERTICAL Band Saw Blades b in reply to kraigWy, 03-12-2004 06:30:21  
Hi KraigWy,

Your talking about the Lennox brand?

I find these last the longest in a sawsall. I noticed Milwaukee also now has a white blade.

T_Bone



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