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How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car traile

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Bryan

03-05-2004 10:48:03




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I'm looking into buying a used outdoor furnace really cheap next week. The problem is, it's over 400 miles away so getting it loaded is going to be a problem. Do you fellas have any ideas on how I can get a 2000lb. boiler that is currently on a concrete slab onto a car trailer? Being it is so far away, I'd rather not try to haul something to pick it up with nor do I have anything that will actually lift it. I thought I'd start here and hopefully get some ideas. It is one heck of a deal and I really don't want to pass it up! thanks for the help

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ScottT

03-07-2004 08:05:23




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Does your trailer have ramps? Back it right up to the boiler, drop the ramps, place a sheet of plywood on the ramps, pry up the front of the boiler, place your rollers, and winch it up onto the deck. Reverse the process when you get home.

Scott



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RayP(MI)

03-06-2004 17:11:31




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Is unit of such size and shape that it could be transported by a trailer such as propane dealers use to move their tanks? Check with your local dealers, maybe they could help out... Although maybe not - for a wood burner!!!



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jokers

03-06-2004 02:15:51




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
I used to sell Heatmors and many times had to move them around by placing pipes under them and rolling them, as some have already suggested. A pry bar under one corner was all that was needed to get a 3/4" pipe started, then you can work in some larger diameter pipes as needed. We even put them on trailers in a few cases using this method.

If the boiler is anything like a Heatmor with sand in the bottom, I`d remove it before trying to move the boiler.

Russ

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Farmered

03-05-2004 21:35:33




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
I moved my outdoor furnace by calling the local gravel company. They have a huge Cat loader which worked just fine. I don't think you could lift it high enough with a farm loader without getting
up against the front of the tractor. Ed



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Warren

03-05-2004 19:45:22




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Bryan,

Just a thought, but if you are in farm country, just stop at a nearby farm and offer the farmer $50.00 to lift it onto your trailer with a loader tractor or skid steer. This time of year, things are pretty slow and an little cash will be appreciated.
Be careful.



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etshobby

03-05-2004 15:57:43




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Growing up in the plumbing and heating bussiness with my dad sure taught you how to use your head and not your back. We used to move big boilers cast iron in and out of basements. The best way was to use planks, hard wood if possible. We would put one down on the ground or floor and place pipe 1 1/2 inch on the planks then place anouther plack on top then the boiler. That way you could always adjust for uneven ground etc. plus, you could pry the planks over and steer a little easier. Keep extra roller ready and slip them in ahead of time . Hopefully you dont have to go up very high. we always jacked up the boiler and used blocks of wood then once up start a plank onto the trailer and use the pipe roller . You will be surprised you can move this by hand . We moved a barn this way 36 feet X 60 about 500 feet and onto a basement wall .Hope your trailer axle is heavy enough and not one of those snowmobile type. Take a couple come- alongs to pull . The tow truck idea is the best and will prove the easiest or a roll back truck.

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Dons

03-05-2004 13:53:21




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
One way I have used a lot is hire a tow truck to come by and lift it for you They are always mobile and worked very well for me in the past they can get into tight places also.Thats my 1 1/2 cents worth (canadian)



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Mguy

03-05-2004 12:51:11




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
If you're gonna hook up an outdoor boiler, this hauling should'nt be any big snag. Use rollers. How do you think them egypt people built them big triangle thingys?



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Cliff (VA)

03-05-2004 12:36:18




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Bryan,

I lifted two 2300# concrete culverts off of a trailer (one at a time) with a 4x4 tripod and block and tackle.

Backed trailer up to where culvert should be. Lifted up culvert slightly. Drove out trailer. Lowered culvert.

I used a Northern block and tackle rated at 4000#. The tripod was connected together with 1" all thread, nuts, and washers. All hardware in the lifting rig was rated at 4000# or better. I tied the end of the rope to a second truck bumper for lifting.

DO NOT LET ANY PART OF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE GET UNDER THE LOAD. MAKE SURE ALL PARTS ARE RATED FOR THE LOAD. If it should fall it will crush anything underneath. My block and tackle failed on the second lift. Fortunantly it dropped the culvert in the right place. No one was near. So much for cheap tools. I have since bought a better block and tackle.

I will try to post a picture if I can find one tonight.

You would probably come out cheaper to hire someone with equipment to load it for you, but you can do it the old fashioned way.

BE SAFE!!!

Cliff (VA)

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Matt

03-07-2004 19:12:17




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 Re: Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my ca in reply to Cliff (VA), 03-05-2004 12:36:18  
Pipe & Egyptian story reminds me...

Years ago I pull into my grandparents summer cottage (which is now my home!) to go fishing.

Papu, age 87, has half his driveway dug up to replace the metal culvert that had collapsed. I help him finish digging it up, and he had planned to fashion another pipe from scrap metal he had.

We get done digging out the old pipe, actually just the one on the east side, the west side pipe was OK. He goes, "Well, since you're hear with your pickup, let's go get a concrete pipe!"

So we go off in my 1984 Ranger and get a 8.5' long 8" pipe. Talk about a full load!

"Um, how are we going to get this off Papu?"
"Ah, well just pull up next to a tree and use some ropes and tackle."
Well, since he had run a trucking business in a rural/farming area for many years from the depression to the late 60s, I figured he knew a good plan. (Side note, he used to tell the stories of trucking eggs to NYC when they had to bring their own pickup truck load of sand to sand the hills for the tractor trailers...and of running a trucking business when they used to rebuild engines every 15k miles!)

On the way back to his place I see a friend of mine pulling out of a driveway with the Telephone company boom truck (the one with the auger they use to set poles with), so I stick my hand out the window and give him the "follow me" signal.

Boom truck made short work of setting the pipe for us, but I kinda wish I had let Papu show me just what he had in mind to handle this 1/2 ton piece of concrete!

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Cliff(VA)

03-06-2004 06:34:00




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 Re: Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my ca in reply to Cliff (VA), 03-05-2004 12:36:18  
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Here is a picture



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Bill Smith

03-05-2004 11:36:13




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 Re: How do I lift a outdoor furnace onto my car tr in reply to Bryan, 03-05-2004 10:48:03  
Well I'm not going to come and help you load it. Don't think my back is up to lifting 2000 lbs. Your best bet is to work out loading arrangments with the person you are buying it from. Probably going to take a peice of equipment to load it. If they are not equiped to do it for you, they would surely know a local somebody who could load it for you. If you are getting it really cheap, you can afford to pay somebody in that area for loading it. Wihout seeing it, I don't know if disassembling it for hand loading would be an option.

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