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How would you cut this?

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Mike Schotte

02-28-2004 08:27:39




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Hey All:

I've got more tractors than I have original air cleaners... and I've been trying to rectify that problem.

I just finished putting together a complete oil bath air cleaner, but I'm trying to make a modified cleaner out of the rusty parts I have left over.

I have a rusted out housing that I have cut the inlet screen out of and have removed the steel wool from.

My intention is to place a paper air filter inside the housing and connect it to the air outlet. From the outside, it will still look like a stock oil bath air cleaner.

The problem is the air tube running up the middle: I need to cut this off to give me room for my paper cartridge to fit inside.

I can't figure out how (and with what tool) to reach down in there and cut off this sheet metal tube.

It's about a foot down inside there, and there is only about 2" clear on each side for a tool.

Any ideas? Here's a pic:
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Thanks, -Schotte

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rob

03-01-2004 18:58:46




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
I'd use a dremel with a fiberglass reinforced cutting wheel on it. they work real well with the flex shaft attachment on it. the fex shaft attachment is smaller than the dremel powerhead so I use it for many things on a daily basis.



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Paul Janke

02-29-2004 08:43:24




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
It probably won't matter, but round filters (air, oil, fuel, etc.) are designed to feed FROM the OUTSIDE TO the INSIDE. I think that is so a restriction problem will collapse the filter rather than blowing a hole in it. Your airflow is going to be backwards. Just be aware of it, and maybe service it too often. Better than not enough.



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Mike Schotte

02-29-2004 08:55:05




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 Re: Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Paul Janke, 02-29-2004 08:43:24  
Hi Paul,

The way I'm talking about, it will still filter from outside to the inside of the filter.

I'll post pics when I'm done... all will be made clear.

Thanks again for everyones help.

-Schotte



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Paul Janke

03-01-2004 06:59:46




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 Re: Re: Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-29-2004 08:55:05  
I'm looking forward to the pictures. I have considered trying the same thing, but have higher priorities to get done. Maybe 20 years from now.....



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Tom

02-29-2004 05:56:58




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
Mike, remember if this is a working tractor ANY leaks "around" the installed filter will eat the engine up in short order. I really don't see how you can make a paper element work to seal properly. Good luck.



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Thank you all..

02-29-2004 06:45:09




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 Re: Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Tom, 02-29-2004 05:56:58  
Thanks to everyone for all the responses.

Georges ideas is pretty brilliant, and not something I would have thought of.

To everyone that's worried about the seal- It will work. I'm only using the air cleaner body as a housing.

I have a small air cleaner element and holder (about the size for a 2bbl carb) and a hose adapter for it.

I'll drill out the side of the air cleaner chamber and the hose will go directly into the carburetor inlet. It will all be hidden inside the can, though.

-Schotte

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george md

02-28-2004 21:01:27




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
You guys are making the job difficult, cut a slot in the side at the top big enough for a sawzall
or air saw blade , reach in and cut the tube , acetylene weld the slot and grind to finish .

george



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Big Marv

02-28-2004 17:38:56




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
I would use a quarter inch drive die grinder with a extension. I would cut it with a reinforced cutting wheel. You can take a course grinding stone to cut the wheel if you need to.



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Kelvin

02-28-2004 16:13:45




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
That probably won't work too well. I've seen one done that way already. I got it off Ebay.

There is no way to force the air to pass through the cleaner, unless you can make it seal at both the top and in the cup.

I would suggest first looking for a better air cleaner. Yours is red-Its either a Massey or a Farmall, right? Gotta be a good one around somewhere.

If you can't find one, Bondo up the holes, JBweld the cup if it has holes in it and put steel wool back in it.

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Johnski

02-28-2004 15:08:27




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
How is the tube attached at the other end? If you can see spot welds then maybe you can drill them out to release the tube. If you can weld then just use a hole saw to cut out the tube from the outside end and weld in a small patch.



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greenbeanman

02-28-2004 12:25:22




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
Similar to T-bone, I would use a cut off wheel, probably an abrasive one since I always keep a container of them around.

However, I would use mine in a Dremel tool. I might have to actually cut in shorter by segments, but it would be quicker for me since I don't have the rod T-bone speaks of.



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RZ(Wa)

02-28-2004 13:27:28




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 Re: Re: How would you cut this? in reply to greenbeanman, 02-28-2004 12:25:22  
Yup, a fiberglass reinforced cut-off wheel at the end of a Dremel tool should work. Don't think I'd use anything but a F-glass one tho', the ones by Dremel will shatter easily, but in a pinch use 'em, they may be the only ones available in your area. I get my reinforced ones at a radio control hobby store, tho' they also will shatter, the wheels will last a bit longer. Looks as though you may have enough room to use a tube cutter. Although those may be too long or bulky to get in.
If you go with a cut-off wheel, wear gloves and some eye and full face protection and a head cover (i.e. hat). When a cut-off wheel breaks, it does it RIGHT NOW and being inside the can it'll bounce off the walls and into your face-shield (talking from experience here).
At last resort, you could always use a pair of side cutters and chip the tube down (tedious, slow and not much fun).

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T_Bone

02-28-2004 08:46:15




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 Re: How would you cut this? in reply to Mike Schotte, 02-28-2004 08:27:39  
Hi Mike,

Use a fiberglass cut off wheel on a piece of 1/2" rod that chucks into a drill/end grinder.

Drill and tap the end of the 1/2" rod to hold the disc on, then cut from "inside" the pipe to the outside.

Pre cut the stand pipe in three places leaving about 1/8" to finish cut. This keeps the tube from pushing down on the cutting disc before the cut is completed.

Can't find the correct diameter disc? Chuck several disc together and pre-grind on a piece of scrap to the correct diameter.

T_Bone

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Fern(Mi)

02-28-2004 12:34:07




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 Re: Re: How would you cut this? in reply to T_Bone, 02-28-2004 08:46:15  
Get that grinder lady on LEtterman to worry'em down and I'll watch.



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