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Homelite oil mix?

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GG

02-18-2004 14:04:24




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I have recently bought an old Homelite Super EZ chain saw, and would like to know the oil to gas mixture ratio.-- THANKS--




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RobertN

02-22-2004 09:18:28




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
Use a good premix oil like Husky or Stihl. Mix it per the oil manufacturer spec; most new oils are 40 or 50:1. They come in little bottles that mix with 1 gal or 2 gal of gas.

Use a good quality gas. It's a tiny engine that revs, though not as high as newer saws. Still, good gas will run better, and it does not really use that much...

The saw may have a spec, like 16:1 using Homelite oil. It was made to run at that mix because the oil was designed and made for that specific ratio. They probably do not make that oil any more. The newer oils are better formualted, and are made to lubricate properly at a higher ratio, ie 50:;1 ect.

If you run leaner than the oil is designed for, you will not get enough lubrication. If you run richer than designed for, you will waste oil. It will get in the spark arrester screen. It will tend to smoke, load up plugs,, and run warmer.

Also, use fresh gas/oil mix. The oils start breaking down in the gas mixture in 24-48 hours. Although many folks use old mixes, it is not the best thing to use in a high-performance hi-rpm motor. It will start easier, run better, and generally be a happier saw to use. I mix 1-gal at a time, so I do not tend to have much left over.

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Jim

02-19-2004 16:10:49




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
These saws need 16:1 mix, the reason they need more oil than the new ones is they have less nickle alloy in the cylinders, so were not quite as hard as the new ones are, just use good 2 cycle air cooled engine oil and no gasahol.



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buickanddeere

02-19-2004 08:43:43




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
The type of two stroke oil is just as important as the mix ratio. Water cooled outboards, injection, premix, race oil and air cooled chainsaws are widely different applications. I use the Amsoil 100:1 premix at 50:1 for the old two strokes.Fouling plugs ,sooted up cylinders,rings/pistons and oil drooling from the exhauste is no longer a concern.



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GG

02-19-2004 06:02:24




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
Good information and my question is answered --THANKS---



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bcPA

02-18-2004 22:33:44




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
I love the super ez saws. I bought 1 25 years ago and then bought 4 more over the years. 3 now run and 2 are for parts. The extra ones I got at auctions for 5 to 20 dollars apiece. One had a tag that said no spark good compression. When I got it home and removed the plug it still cranked over like the plug was in it. I only gave 5 for it so I did not get hurt. 16 to 1 that is 8 oz to I gallon is the proper mix as far as I know. My ecko calls for 8 oz to 1 gal. some times I run the one mix in the other if in a bind.

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Scott

02-18-2004 21:05:32




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
My owners manual for my Homelite 360 says 32:1 with Homelite oil and 16:1 with non Homelite oil. I mix mine 16:1 with valvoline 2 stroke oil and never have any problems. 8 oz. oil with 1 gallon non ethonal gas.



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TimV

02-18-2004 18:00:03




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
GG: I mix my 240 at 32:1. Other people go down to 25:1 on the older Homelites, and don't seem to have a problem--these saws aren't particularly sensitive to the mix ratio, as some of the newer 2-stroke engines are.



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Jeff

02-18-2004 17:19:53




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 Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to GG, 02-18-2004 14:04:24  
If you want to do it the "OLD FASION WAY" then here is the formula. It is 1/2 pint of 30wt oil per one gallon of regular gas. That is right off of the plate on an old Homelite saw. I own a bunch of old McCulloch saws from about 1960 to 1996 and I just mix one little plastic bottle of 2cy mix with stabilizer to one gallon of regular gas, It is very easy. Ha ha. I found that if you try that original formula I locked one saw up and another would foul plugs as quick as you could clean them. Sthil,Poulan, and Echo premix stuff all works just fine. Modern saws run very fast and realy are race engines.The old stuff just chugs along but all of them seam to like these premix formulas. Jeff

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jeff

02-19-2004 23:19:46




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 Re: Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to Jeff, 02-18-2004 17:19:53  
Let us see if I can post this. This is from a friends saw. also the pre mix oils of today are synthetics and work MUCH better that straight oils. Also note that Echo and Poulan are made by the same supplier. Look at the bottles. One bottle says 50/1 mix the other says 40/1 mix per gallon. If you want to go a little heavy mix a little bottle with 3/4 gallon of gas but watch for smoke and plug fouling. I have yet to have any problems with a straight mix in a gallon of regular gas. Remember you want LOW octain gas. this keeps the saw cooler when it runs. Hi test will fry your piston and cylinder.

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jim

02-21-2004 06:35:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to jeff, 02-19-2004 23:19:46  
I hope you are refering to the oil, the oils might be made by the same manufacturer, but the additives are as differnet as day and night. As for Echo, they are made by Kioritz Corp and Poulan is made by Electrolux



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shoot

02-18-2004 18:45:02




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 Re: Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to Jeff, 02-18-2004 17:19:53  
GG I run all of my older saws at 40 to 1 with Stihl mix. I too have an old Super EZ and have had no problems with this mix but it was originally 32 to 1 with Homelite oil I believe. If I'm wrong John will straighten me out.



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bob

02-18-2004 20:53:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to shoot, 02-18-2004 18:45:02  
16 to 1



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Dave C. in virginia

02-19-2004 09:55:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Homelite oil mix? in reply to bob, 02-18-2004 20:53:08  
Link check this link out it has lots of old saws and specs.



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