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Alan Iowa

01-27-2004 15:24:19

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I have the shop finished and now I would like a phone in the shop. The shop is about 300 feet from the nearest telephone jack on the outside of the house. This spring I would like to bury the telephone wire or cable, but I cant find the right wire to bury or anyone that sells the wire. What is the marking on the cable that indicates that is the right wire. I have found some that say PVC covered,but dont think it is the right cable. Any and I mean any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks all

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Jeff

01-29-2004 02:39:16

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Go to your local telephone garage and ask for a spool of "buried drop"
They will give it to you, while your there ask if they will give you a roll of the plastic flagging to lay over top of the wire in the trench.

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Jeremy

01-28-2004 18:14:44

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Just stop by your phone company and tell them your building a new house and you what to lay all the line s in the same trench line. Worked for me.

Jeremy

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John R

01-28-2004 04:30:59

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Go to Lowes. They have it and will cut any length you need. Home Depot and Menards also have it.

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Hummmm?

01-28-2004 03:45:06

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Just a little reminder.
When you bury your wire, should you put it in the me trench with eletrical, keep them 16" (sixteen inches) apart. To alleviate static HUM.
Might also lay some straw over your wire and if your including a water line spome straw to mark their depth for redigging up later.
Just some friendly reminders.
Fern(Mi)

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Lil_Farmer

01-28-2004 03:24:39

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Go to Radio Shack and get the phone adapters that plug into your electricial outlets. About $70.00 apiece, I think. They work well, no trench to dig, no wire to run, and you can move them around or add to them as your needs change. Been using a couple for 3 years now, no trouble.

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mike

01-27-2004 20:16:54

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

if you have found phone wire w/ a PVC jacket, you are in good shape. PVC is the same as PVC pipe. if you want more protection, you can run it in PVC conduit.1/2inch would be adequate, might cost a little more than 40 bucks for the pipe. its up to you just advice from an electrician
mike

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Bob

01-27-2004 19:15:44

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Call your local phone company. They should supply you with the wire. I got a quarter of a mile of it from them. Two years later I added two more phones and got another quarter of a mile from them. Good Luck.

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Dale in I'N'

01-27-2004 18:19:59

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Allan, I agree with the guy sayin hittin up your phone company repairman. I worked for a phone company for many many years. Phone guys don't like splices. So, when the bury a drop or two the spool that is left may have several hundred feet on it, but to use that spool on another drop may mean an undergound splice, nope, ain't gonna happen. Believe it or not most of them are really good folks. Not like the billing or business office folks. These guys haveta look atcha.

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CNKS

01-27-2004 18:13:44

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

I used phone line from Radio shack, put it a couple of feet above my gas line in the same trench, works fine. May not last forever, but only needs a shallow trench. Can't beat a hard wired phone, I have also tried a 2.4 cordless, does not work in a metal building.

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Mac

01-27-2004 17:50:26

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

300ft is a pretty good jag of wire. I would check with the local communications co, they may lead you to where they buy from, or sell you some. See if they have a contractor and maybe they can help.
Seems "beldon or diamond" wire either would have what you need. Me thinks a 1000ft Spool of that will be around 200 bucks Plus S&H if you order it. Do a search for diamond wire and you will probably find something. Since you are connecting to the existing house set up, there may be a distance limit.

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walt

01-27-2004 17:40:33

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

When I built my house, I just went down to the phone company and told them I had the ditch dug and needed cable to bury. They just cut off what I needed. 250'

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clodhopper

01-27-2004 17:35:58

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

If you can catch your local telephone company repairman, he might give you info on cable. I have obtained cable from them here in Illinois where they have laid temporary line on the ground for a bridge replacement or etc. and they let me pick it after installing permanent line. Maybe he could advise you on something in your area.

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Bob

01-27-2004 17:28:50

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Look in your Yellow Pages for an electrical supplies wholesaler. Often, they have the direct burial phone cable, or can get it overnight.

If they won't sell to you directly, ask them for the name of a local electrician, and buy it through him.

Also, have you asked your local phone company? I've been given good, useable underground phone wire by one of the phone repair guys. It was some that they had strung out for a temporary deal, and was weathered a bit, so they would not use it, but it has worked flawlessly for me since I built my shop in 1984, and best of all, it was FREE!

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Jim E cent IL

01-27-2004 17:28:03

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

Try any company that does security, or fire alarm work. You only need one pair. They have access to the big wire companies. If you get the right one, they will only sell you the footage you need...

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01-27-2004 17:26:57

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

I am an electrican and I trench all of the feeds to the new houses that we do. I just catch the local phone repair person when I see his truck, and ask for some direct burial phone wire. They would rather give me the wire than have to go out and do the job themselves.

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old

01-27-2004 15:42:33

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

I do like the other guy says but I just take my 900Mhz phone out when I go to the shop and bring it back in when I come in cheaper and works just great unless the compressor is on then I can't here it ring but it has caller ID on it so I just call them back

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GunNut

01-27-2004 17:38:40

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Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to old, 01-27-2004 15:42:33

That 900 mhz phone won't work in an metal pole barn. The barn acts as a shield.

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old

01-27-2004 18:55:36

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Re: Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to GunNut, 01-27-2004 17:38:40

Works ok in my building and its about 75% metal but it also has a lot of windows and ya metal and any radio signals don't mix well

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raytasch

01-27-2004 15:38:07

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Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Alan Iowa, 01-27-2004 15:24:19

If your shop is finished I would guess you power there. Consider getting two identical cordless phones. Keep one base in the house and the other in the shop just to keep the phone charged. Could just go with one cordless phone and remmeber to carry it with you between shop and house. Whole lot easier than running phone cable.
ray

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Al Iowa

01-27-2004 17:04:23

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Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to raytasch, 01-27-2004 15:38:07

Well, I have tried the portable phones, but with the metal shop, and the distance, the phone will only work outside or by the window in the office.
The phone is a 900 mz and I have tried the 2.4g phones and they arent any better. They now make a 5.8g and I dont know if it would work or not.Right now I have covered wire strung from the house to the shop on top of the ground and it works good, but in the summer I do have to mow the grass and it just isnt practical. I just need to know where to get the wire and I can get it into the ground, hopefully.

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Slowpoke

01-29-2004 00:37:01

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Re: Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Al Iowa, 01-27-2004 17:04:23

Why can't you underground the wire you're using now in 1/2" or 3/4 PVC pipe??? The pipe will keep any wire from being exposed to acids and other stuff in the soil.
Just be sure both ends are sealed from the elements.
But if you want new: Grainger #3ZK41, Cat3, AWG 24, 2 pair, 1000', $35.
With 2 pair, if one opens, you have a spare in place.

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Slowpoke

01-29-2004 00:23:42

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Re: Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Al Iowa, 01-27-2004 17:04:23

Why can't you underground the wire you're using now in 1/2" or 3/4 PVC pipe??? The pipe will keep any wire from being exposed to acids and other stuff in the soil.

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goofus fr L.A.

01-28-2004 07:35:07

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Re: Re: Re: Cant find underground telephone cable in reply to Al Iowa, 01-27-2004 17:04:23

I had to be bull headed and put mine underground. Nothing but trouble. Everyone trid to get me to put it overhead, I wish I had. Refer back to this post 30 years from now.goof

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