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lug nuts from rusting

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bob

01-20-2004 15:44:58




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I have a Ford tractor that the lug nuts rusted, after lots of heat I got them all off, what can I use to keep this from happening again?
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RayP(MI)

01-21-2004 11:40:29




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 Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to bob, 01-20-2004 15:44:58  
I've had similar problems over the years, especially on automobiles with aluminum wheel rims. I use white lithium grease on lugs, and make sure there is a good coating on the cone shaped part of the nut where it contacts the aluminum rim. Probably any lubricant, or anti-sieze would work.



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Vern-MI

01-21-2004 06:22:30




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 Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to bob, 01-20-2004 15:44:58  
Use Loctite (Permatex) Anti-Sieze as it has Zinc as it's primary agent. Zinc is what galvanizining is done with. If I remember right the two elements zinc (Zn) and iron (Fe) like to share valence electrons and become "Covalent". The Iron atom has one free electron and the Zinc atom needs additional electrons. Once the Iron atom joins with the Zinc atom it no longer has the free electron to give and prevents the Iron atom from joining with the Oxygen (O) in water (H2O) and becomming Iron Oxide or as we know it RUST. I hope my memory is correct as I have been away from Chemistry for 47 years.

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BJ

01-20-2004 17:54:20




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 Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to bob, 01-20-2004 15:44:58  
Never-Seize I think permatex makes it comes in a gray bottle you can get it at auto parts stores won't wash off like grease does



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wdTom

01-20-2004 17:48:48




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 Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to bob, 01-20-2004 15:44:58  
I have put grease on all my lug nuts/bolts for years. Never had one come loose until I put a wrench on it.



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JD-Tractor

01-20-2004 17:26:29




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 Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to bob, 01-20-2004 15:44:58  
Get some white lead and rub on the studs then tighten lug nuts



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Ol Chief

01-20-2004 18:54:43




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 Re: Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to JD-Tractor, 01-20-2004 17:26:29  
Hey J D Tractor I agree with you on application of white lead on any thread.I used that stuff for years at sea.Even salt water does not affect it.Only problem I have had is obtaining it here in the U.S.Have only been able to get it from Canada.



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RB/CT

01-20-2004 19:46:57




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 Re: Re: Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to Ol Chief , 01-20-2004 18:54:43  
If its real lead they probably have banned it in the USA due to lead poisoning. I would use Anti-Sieze by loctite.



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Mac

01-21-2004 10:11:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: lug nuts from rusting in reply to RB/CT, 01-20-2004 19:46:57  
Many years ago I worked where we rebuilt our own valves, poured new babbot seats in steam and ammonia valves. Before we put them back together we had an anti-sieze producct called stop-cock grease we packed stems with it, was heat resistant. I got a tube of that around here and use frequently for anti seize, but that was before anti seize was marketed like it is now days. Oiling or using anything on lug bolts it seems is a no no, I been doing it for over 50 years. Dont take much to make a differnce the next time you try to loosen one.

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