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Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers

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Benj. J. Joe Br

01-20-2004 13:39:04




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Hello Everyone,
I got about 1000 lbs of various nuts, bolts, and washers from a retired contractor(very cheap). The problem is they got wet and are lightly rusted. Anyone got a good easy way to clean them up? There is a mixture of various types, grades (Steel, Stainless, Plated, Etc).
All help is appreciated. Thanks, Joe




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Gordon in IN

01-21-2004 14:30:18




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
I use a small cement mixer with sand (sharp sand or plaster sand or sand blasting sand), fine gravel (# 11), water and car "wash and wax soap" such as "Turtle Wax, wash and wax". Put the rusted items in the mixer with the sand, gravel, water, and the Wash and Wax Car Soap (about the "thickness" of "wet concrete") and then run it a while. Add more soap to get just a little "suds". When the parts are clean, remove the parts from the "mix", rince in clean water and allow to dry (in the sun or a heated area if possible). This will leave the parts clean and prevent rust for quite a while if they are kept dry. Add more rusty parts and Car Wash and Wax Soap to "mix" to clean more parts, no need to use new sand and gravel every time you do a "load". This cleans the Mixer really well also. Good luck, Gordon in IN

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Jimmy King

01-21-2004 13:04:42




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
I like the idea about the mixer if you don't have one adversize and get a used one,it is not for salebut I have a portable Mixer that is almost as old as I (62) If you go to some of the Manafactering places they will give you used sand blasting sand to get rid of it. I would think that would work well.



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Nolan

01-21-2004 11:12:52




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
Bucket of vinegar. The more you want to do at one time, the bigger the bucket.



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john

01-20-2004 18:11:35




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
BJJB

electrolytic rust removal... need a plastic tub, a battery charger, water, an anode

cheap and easy.. here's a link with info

do a google search on the term for lots more info
there was also quite a thread on the hobart welder site on this procedure

Link

hope it helps

john



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Delbert

01-20-2004 17:18:58




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
Use cement mixer and cut up card board in smaller peices or us leather strips. I used to work in a locker plant and we would clean the hooks that held beef and hogs in a tumbler this way it would make the hooks look like new. Only take maybe 2 hour to do a hole bunch of hooks. You might even use some of those packing things they use in shipping anymore. This wouldn,t be so hard on the threads. If you had a strainer you could dip nuts and bolts in bucket of oil and let them drain in a bucket might take awhile but what the hay. Have too much fun.

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Keith(OR)

01-20-2004 19:50:56




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 Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Delbert, 01-20-2004 17:18:58  
seen a place clean nuts, bolts comercially, they used a vibrator filled with crushed glass. I have used the same mothod only using a large rock tumbler. Works extremely well, All glass is made from silicate (sand).Just thinking my mother saved 5 gallons of MT. ST Helens ash, extremely abrasive, I will try it the next time I need to clean rusty bolts and report my results here.I also use a tumbler filled with either crushed walnut or corn cob media to clean all my rifle brass before reloading.

My half dollar of info.

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Benj. J. Joe Browning

01-20-2004 20:23:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Keith(OR), 01-20-2004 19:50:56  
Hello Kieth, Living in Longview, I can easily come up with some Mt. St Helens ash. Interestingly, the further up river you go the coarser the ash. Thanks, Joe



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Keith(OR)

01-20-2004 21:52:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 20:23:50  
Joe:
Did not realize one could still get the ash anymore.Was telling a friend that St Helens ash should work really good in a sand blaster if one could still get it, cause it has no smooth sides at all. I remember one of the University did a study using it in cement, found that it since it had no smooth sides made extremely good bonding material in the cement.Made the cement really strong.But never did hear anymore about its use. I am located just south of the Columbia river 180 miles east of Portland

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Benj. J. Joe Browning

01-20-2004 22:18:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Keith(OR), 01-20-2004 21:52:17  
Hello Kieth, How many million cubic yards do you need? Email me with your order and I will quote a price. Just kidding
Joe



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Ash

01-20-2004 23:25:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washer in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 22:18:13  
Then you need to find an old cement mixer and fill it with the ash put in your rusty nuts and bolts.And have fun doing things the easy way. Send me one thousand cubic yards, should get me start in sand blasting my Ford 860.....lol lol



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goldwingboy

01-20-2004 16:43:40




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
Use a cement mixer and sandblasting sand overnight. Use a screen to separate bolts from sand and oil after.



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DenTx

01-20-2004 15:41:15




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
Crushed walnut shells in a tumbler (wife's washer :))>
Couple of hours when ever you need a few or a few pounds every day for a while.



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BJ

01-20-2004 17:58:10




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 Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to DenTx, 01-20-2004 15:41:15  
Wouldn't her clothes dryer work better (ha ha)



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al

01-20-2004 15:30:06




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
A mixture of seven parts water and one part mollases if let sit two weeks will turn into a kind of acid that disolves rust - like water disolves sugar. You have to leave the rusted material in this mix for two more weeks then rinse off and maybe give it another two weeks. I've tried this on heavily rust item and it completely disovles all the rust.Working with a 1000 lbs of nuts and bolts would take a lot of handling. What would you do - oil them after.

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old

01-20-2004 14:56:01




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
Well with that many it will be a job no matter what. Do you have a cement mixer and some turpentine and maybe a screen to drain them on



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Mac

01-20-2004 14:02:29




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 Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Benj. J. Joe Browning, 01-20-2004 13:39:04  
I was thinking down the line of some sort of tumbler machine, using the right media. I think thats what it called. Guess it depended a lot on the size of the stuff ya have. With time, patience and the right stuff you could probably fabricate your own tumbler.



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goofus fr L.A.

01-20-2004 21:04:45




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 Re: Re: Rusty Nuts, Bolts, Washers in reply to Mac, 01-20-2004 14:02:29  
I would put them in a drum, then add some diesel, install the lid and get my mother n law to roll it up and down the hill for four hours, non stop. goof



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