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Sam

01-13-2004 11:20:42




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I live in Virginia and I am looking to learn how to weld . I would attend a community college here but its too late to sign up for the semester . Anyone know where or how I learn ? Schools or employers willing to train in Virginia ? Thanks, Sam




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Chris

01-16-2004 08:55:19




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 Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Sam, 01-13-2004 11:20:42  
The best way is to just get a welder and some 7018'2 or 6011's and have at it. The best learning is practice. Colleges just give you a book and a chance to practice. I just went through the welding class at the college I am attending. You may be able to go to the local college book store and get a welding book. Everything you need to know is in there.



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Carl

01-14-2004 05:16:22




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 Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Sam, 01-13-2004 11:20:42  
Hi Sam, something to think about. Run an add in your local news paper, asking if an individual with his or her own equipment would be willing to teach you one on one. In the past I have taught 4 or 5 people to take the state structural welding test. When you are one on one with someone you learn really fast. About 30 years ago I took 3 years of welding school, when you are one of 30 try getting the teacher's attention! Just a thought. Carl

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Nominday

01-13-2004 20:27:58




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 Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Sam, 01-13-2004 11:20:42  
You are on the right track . . do that school, ask to enter late or wait for the next session. I "half-vast" welded all my life but finally gave up and took a college course with a super certified instructor. It flat takes lots of hours with expert supervision to get a grasp of what you're doing. I compare welding to guitar because it take an equal amount of time and practice to become proficient. Take gas welding first because the action is basic to ALL welding and with gas, you can see what you are doing and it is slow enough to allow minor corrections as you go. Four hours a night, four nights a week for 3 months is just about adequate. The country is full of "welders" who can stick steel together but don't have a clue about good welding. If you master gas, you can learn TIG very quickly. Stick welding is very related to MIG but I would try to learn gas, stick, MIG & TIG in that order. Two cents please!

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Johnski

01-13-2004 16:16:01




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 Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Sam, 01-13-2004 11:20:42  
Sam,
Check with your local area vocational high school. Most have night classes that teach a variety of things. The classes are usually small and not too expensive. I signed up for a welding class last fall but it was cancelled due to lack of interest,only 5 people signed up. Most schools have modern equipment and its a good place to start learning all of the different processes.



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Alvin n Ms.

01-13-2004 16:03:39




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 Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Sam, 01-13-2004 11:20:42  
I have a small AC,- DC, welder that I will sell you cheap, it is still like new with the helmet, and user instructions. Almost anyone can weld mild steel, which is a large percentage of all welding, using 6011, 7018, and the 7014 rods are contact rods that anyone can use after stricking an arc. The art of welding goes on and on. Very few people ever learn it all, and you can spend millions on equipment, but the above is a great way to start. Lots of people know how to use the stick welders. alvinnms

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al landers

01-13-2004 16:16:11




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 Re: Re: learning to weld !? in reply to Alvin n Ms., 01-13-2004 16:03:39  
Have tried to respond to the messages on welding but somehow it never was posted. The talk just brought back memories of learning to weld overhead and vertical. I learned in Ms. in the early 70's welding trusses. Setting on a 5 gallon bucket welding vertical, closing a 1 1/2 v-groove. The stringer would get so hot we would drop them into a bucket of water to cool them down so we could hold them. A cajon from south Louisiana showed me the art of welding and later I certified through the Pitt Lab test never forgetting the lessons learned,#1 know how to set your welder, 2 wear protective clothing esp. on overhead, 3 don't let the stuff falling out of the weld scare you just maintain a short arc and control the molten pool. Never whip a 7018 rod in any circumstance. Mild steel rods ok. If your machine amperage is correct you should't need to whip that electrode much at all. Always weld uphill with that lo-hi rod and you won't have a lot of porosity in the weld. Understand that if you weld downhill with lo-hi the penetration will be minimal. Let the magnetic force work for you, don't be afraid of the heat or the slag falling out of the weld, keep that arc tight and remember that all rods are for specific welding and are only as good as the person holding the stinger. Oh and by the way the best welders are women, they are more steady. My wife asked me to teach her to weld, I think she has some craft projects in mind. We started out with the wire welder, it is a bit more user friendly, and then I handed her the stinger for the stick welder, she did OK with that one, but I think she liked the wire welder better.

Mine to, although I have no wire welder. Lessons begin this winter after I get 220v out in the garage. Scott I think women in general make good welders if they decide to do it. The rest of the associated tools may be another issue for a person/woman just starting out with no mechanical background. Welding is sort of like a craft, with the hand eye cordination thing which many women are better at than most men.

What position are women better in

You touched upon a subject that I had never thought about; should a woman that is in the family way be welding?...and if so, should the baby wear a hood too? Think about that! Fred OH

No hood needed, the baby would just turn out to be a natural born welder. alvinnms

Joe, good tips. I didn't know that women make better welders. One more tip; when you don't know, ask someone who does.

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