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STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL

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JACK

01-03-2004 18:23:23




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A PERSON I WORK WITH JUST GAVE ME A 2 YEAR OLD STIHL 026 HE SAID IT WOULD NOT START. IT IS VERY HARD TO PULL THE STARTER ROPE UNLESS YOU REMOVE THE SPARK PLUG ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS WHAT COULD BE WRONG?




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JACK

01-07-2004 09:01:03




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
WELL I FOUND THE PROBLEM! I WAS TALKING TO A OLD MAN DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME HEASKED HOW LONG THE STARTER ROPE WAS I TOLD ABOUT 20 INCHES (18 ACTUALY) HE SAID IT WAS TO SHORT PUT 36 INCHES ON IT IT AND IT WILL BE FINE. I WAS THINKING TO MY SELF WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THE LENGTH MAKE BUT I TRYIED IT AND IT WORKS FINE KNOW. THANKS FOR THE IDEAS EVERYBODY.

JACK



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Ross

01-05-2004 06:09:25




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
If your saw doesn't have a compression release since like you say its not a pro, then the two things I would check is either the go through recoil assembley with a fine tooth comb. or very unlikely but happened to me on an 041 make sure the crank hasn't shifted and started to bind. On my 041 when I replaced the sparkplug wire the dealer used a punch type flywheel remover and it must have knocked the crank over against the clutch causing the crank to bind. Since you've been through the engine I'd say look real hard at the recoil assembly. Even my 041 doesn't pull that hard. One more thing that just hit me, you may be flooding the cylinder when you try to start it thus hydro-locking it? It would explain why it pulls easier when the plug is out?
Hope you get the saw running I've always wanted an 026.
Ross
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Ryan

01-04-2004 15:43:25




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
Had a student bring in a saw with the same characteristics. Turned out the armature screws had loosened due to vibration and the magnet was rubbing on the flywheel. Spaced it up using an index card, tightened the screws and she pulled normally and started right up.



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Mike in WI

01-04-2004 07:50:20




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
Jack, also, are you able to spin the chain sprocket by hand to verify that the clutch isn't locked up?



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jack

01-04-2004 08:50:07




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Mike in WI, 01-04-2004 07:50:20  
YEP CHAIN SPINS & THE BRAKE IS OFF AND THE CLUTCH IS OK



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bob

01-04-2004 08:48:43




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Mike in WI, 01-04-2004 07:50:20  
did someone rececently replace the rope? A poor job of tying the knot can make it rub & be very difficult to pull. It binds up as you pull it.



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Mike in WI

01-04-2004 06:59:07




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
Jack, is it possible the chain brake is engaged?
Pull the hand guard back towards the front handle to disengage. With the clutch cover off, you may want to verify that the band is indeed releasing from the drum.



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Bernie in MA

01-04-2004 14:31:23




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Mike in WI, 01-04-2004 06:59:07  
DO NOT START THE SAW with the clutch cover off. My son did that and almost lost an eye when the clutch exploded.



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Richard Fazio

01-04-2004 05:51:34




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
I have that model Stihl. They come with an automatic compression release. This makes it easy to pull start. It could be on the blink. Probably an easy fix. Bring it to a dealer and have them check it out, or just get a new release.



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JACK

01-04-2004 06:19:11




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Richard Fazio, 01-04-2004 05:51:34  
I THOUGHT ONLY ONLY THE 026PRO HAD THE COMP. RELEASE.



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Richard Fazio

01-04-2004 08:05:15




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 Re: Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-04-2004 06:19:11  
I'm not sure! You can see the compression release. It's a small fitting in the head. Mine is on top of the unit when holding the saw upright. Looks like a brass fitting maybe 1/2" in outside diameter. See if you've got one.



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Mike in WI

01-04-2004 12:51:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Richard Fazio, 01-04-2004 08:05:15  
Richard - The standard 026 does not have a compression release. The 026 Pro model does.

I routinely cold start my standard 026 on the 2nd or 3rd pull. A compression release is a nice option, but not a requirement for a 48cc saw.



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Mike in WI

01-04-2004 01:25:55




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
Remove the muffler from the front of the saw to view the condition of the cylinder & piston thru the exhaust port. The piston & rings should not display evidence of scoring or heavy carbon deposits. Use the pull start to position the piston in the exhaust port & push on both rings with a small screw driver to insure that they are not stuck.



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JACK

01-04-2004 06:26:24




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Mike in WI, 01-04-2004 01:25:55  
I REMOVED THE CYL. THERE IS NO ABNORMAL WEAR THE RINGS ARE OK. THE ROD IS OK AND ALL THE PORTS IN THE CLY. ARE CLEAR I PUT THE SAW BACK TO GETHER AND HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.



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Robert

01-03-2004 22:14:03




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 Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-03-2004 18:23:23  
If I were you I'd check the engine compression with a compression gauge for engines, the pressure should NOT be more than 120PSI in the saw. or you should take the saw to a Stihl authorised dealership and have a saw tech look at it. It might need engine work so have a mechanic with the tools to fix it check it out.



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stihltech

01-04-2004 18:10:58




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 Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to Robert , 01-03-2004 22:14:03  
It is not how hard you pull it, but how quick you pull it. All the above suggestions are worth a look. Verfy that the bearings have NO play and that the coil is not rubbing on the flywheel. Make sure the flywheel key is not sheared, even partially.
This saw does have some very good compression. Excess carbon in the top of the cylinder will increase this compression. May need a good cleaning.

I find this comlaint with women and older gentleman.Sorry if I offend anyone, but it is the truth. Cure, the Elastostart, or the compression release on the pro model. I would get an elastostart if everything else checks out.

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JACK

01-04-2004 21:08:02




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 Re: Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to stihltech, 01-04-2004 18:10:58  
THE KEY IS GOOD AND THERE IS NOT ALOT OF CARBON ON THE TOP OF THE PISTON OR IN THE CYL. THERE IS ABOUT .010 OF CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE COIL & FLYWHEEL. I CAN TURN THE FLY WHEEL A WHOLE ALOT EASYER WITH MY FINGERS THAN WITH THE ROPE. I TOOK A COMP. TEST THE CYL HAS 62LBS. OF COMP.



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rod

01-05-2004 15:06:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to JACK, 01-04-2004 21:08:02  
this just happened to me I was pulling on rope and saw seemed to bind took it apart the piston skirt was hitting on the crank counterweight I ground off some of the piston skirt saw now runs not sure for how long could be the crank bearing is worn for an 026 I would get a tech to at least look at it are you interested in selling it as is?
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rod



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JACK

01-06-2004 06:50:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: STIHL 026 HARD TO PULL in reply to rod, 01-05-2004 15:06:03  
ROD I'M NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING.



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