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Pjw

01-03-2004 08:28:57




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I have a wire grounding question. I live in the country and have a well for water service. My electrical panel is grounded with a rod that is driven into the earth this I found without problem. I can find no evidence of a ground wire to a water pipe. Is it necessary to also have a ground wire connected to the water lines? The house is copper piped to a shut-off valve. From there it is plastic to the pressure tank and to the well. Please advise.

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Farmered

01-04-2004 03:08:20




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 Re: wiring question in reply to Pjw, 01-03-2004 08:28:57  
PJW Besides bonding, my county requires that the first 10 feet of pipe outside the wall be copper and then you can use pvc to the well. Ed



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John K

01-03-2004 23:17:17




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 Re: wiring question in reply to Pjw, 01-03-2004 08:28:57  
Don't forget to bond your metal gas line to your water line or to your house panel if you have plastic water lines. It's code here in Alberta.



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David - OR

01-03-2004 09:26:48




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 Re: wiring question in reply to Pjw, 01-03-2004 08:28:57  
There is a difference between bonding and grounding.

The copper piping system inside the house should be BONDED to the service entrance ground. See article 250.104 of the 2002 National Electrical Code. The purpose of this is to provide a path for fault currents should an energized wire short to the piping system someday, somewhere inside your house.

The service entrance cannot be effectively GROUNDED to a water system supplied through plastic piping, and there is no requirement to attempt such a thing. There are severe limits on trying to use even metallic underground water piping to accomplish effective grounding. See article 250.52 of the NEC.

Some local jurisdictions require that your well casing be grounded to the electrical system ground; typically this is done via the grounding wire to the pump motor. Oftentimes, this ground is a much lower DC resistance than that afforded by the typical driven electrode. Such a situation is not without potential problems, however, as the flow of leakage currents through the well casing is said by some to lead to electrolytic deterioration of the casing, and to water quality problems.

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tech4

01-03-2004 09:13:33




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 Re: wiring question in reply to Pjw, 01-03-2004 08:28:57  
I am not a licensed electrician so I can't recite the code. But if it was mine, I would bond the copper water line to the electrical ground for the following reason. I had the same condition until I had a lightning strike and the strike hit my copper water line and arced through to a nearby ground and burned the copper pipe in too and leaked water in my basement. I had lightning rods put in by a professional and the first thing they did was bond all metal and grounds together so they had a common path to ground.

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