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Brian

12-27-2003 21:28:20




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Looking at buying a palm sander. Was wondering what was better, PSA (pressure-sensitive adhesive) pad or hook and loop pad. Mostly used for small wood-working and minor restoration projects




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wondering

12-28-2003 08:44:33




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
OK, I am behind the curve as usual. Earlier someone was asking about pancake compressors. Now it is palm sanders. Why would you want to compress a pancake OR sand your palm?



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D.L.

12-28-2003 17:22:25




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 Re: Re: Palm sander in reply to wondering, 12-28-2003 08:44:33  
yer shore 'nuff b'hind the curve!!! out here we compress 'em pancakes so we can fit more of 'em in the packs on the way to huntin' camp... the horses can carry the extry weight... it's just the size that'll getcha!!! ...sand them palms so's ya can git a better holt of 'em reins!!!



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D.L.

12-28-2003 08:19:11




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
As a previous store manager for a national supplier of woodworking tools & equipment, I saw lots of power tools go out the door... and some come back in! Although most folks are extremely "brand loyal", I succeeded in selling mainly the Porter Cable 333 random orbital sander. There are sanders out there that do the job more efficiently, but at a much higher cost. The 333's proved to be a dependable and versatile machine at a very affordable price. Personally, I have a variety of sanders; some use PSA and some use hook/loop. Depending on the job, I might use one or the other. But if I were to have only one, as someone previously mentioned, it would be with the hook & loop system. I agree that the adhesive discs don't re-adhere very well once removed. The 333 even picks up dust relatively well. It's a good choice for a home shop...and American made!!!

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Slowpoke

12-29-2003 01:36:28




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 Re: Re: Palm sander in reply to D.L., 12-28-2003 08:19:11  
I just bought a stack of 3m hook & loop 5" sanding disks for 17� each. Since I don't have an orbital sander, is there a 5" hook & loop backing plate that will fit on a Wen sander/polisher with a 3/8-24 thread drive shaft? I haven't yet been able to find a 5" plate of any kind, only 4" & 6". If I do find one, where would I look for a piece of loop material to glue on it?



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D.L.

12-29-2003 03:29:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Palm sander in reply to Slowpoke, 12-29-2003 01:36:28  
call 1.800.645.9292 & ask for current issue of catalog (Woodworker's Supply, should be cat #190) will send at no charge... on page 125, there is a listing for 12 different replacement pads (the rubber backing pad) for various sanders... one of these may fit (or you may be able to modify to fit)... on the same page (part # 901-872) is a sheet (approx 12" x 12") of material to convert a smooth pad (for PSA abrasives) to hook & loop. hope this helps!

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Slowpoke

12-29-2003 14:15:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Palm sander in reply to D.L., 12-29-2003 03:29:16  
D.L., thanks for the lead. I went to www.woodworkerssupply.com, and found current and past catalogs. Easy to read any page. All the pads are for random orbit sanders. My sanding tool is a 1400/1600rpm rotary with a 6" pad. I guess I could get a replacement pad and cut it down, but I think the edges would be too thick.



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SamH

12-28-2003 06:39:01




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
I have a small woodshop too and have tried both the hook & loop and the adhesive pads. My choice is the hook & loop because it allows me to swap the pads around without throwing them away. If your projects are like mine, many times you want to sand a little with a pad and then change to a different grit, but don't want to throw away a nearly new pad. I have found that adhesive pads don't work very well for reuse. I also prefer the 5 hole pads for a home shop, since these sanders generate a lot of fine dust particles.

I have a 5" Porter Cable orbital sander that cost me 60 bucks at the Home Depot. It does a great job and is the only one I saw that is made in the US (Jackson TN).

Hope this helps

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Delbert

12-28-2003 06:20:59




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
Use both psa and loop pad works best for me. I have a black and decker works best with adhesive paper. Or the spray adhesive added to it.



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Neal

12-28-2003 01:32:50




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
I have been a supervisor in a powder paint department for a major manufactur and have tried about every brand of sanding disks on the market. I have found the Dynabrade 5 inch orbital sander to be the best out there. I also found the 3M brand of pressure sensitive sanding disks to work the best and provide the best economy. I had numerous abrasive vendors come in and tell me how much money they could save me and how superior their disks were to 3M. I let the employees who were doing the actual physical work tell me what was the best, and 3M was always their choice. We started out with the disks with the holes in them and sanders with the vacuum attachment to collect the sanding dust. We soon found out that we could greatly increase production by switching to the palm sander without the vacuum disks. The pressure sensitive disks proved to work better than the hook and loop type.

You can buy less expensive sanders that will work fine for home use, but they will require more time and effort to do the job. I am convinced there is no good substitute for the 3M pads.

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Dennis

12-27-2003 22:43:34




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 Re: Palm sander in reply to Brian , 12-27-2003 21:28:20  
Hook and loop dustless(with the holes) is what I suggest. I bought a 6" Porter Cable random, orbital, for $130 and it does a very good job.



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