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Wood stove in the workshop?

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Terry

12-23-2003 10:01:53




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I have a nice workshop (un-attached garage) that I'm rebuilding a truck in. However, it's not heated. It's metal, and has insolated walls to about eight feet up, then uninsoluated for the next eight or so to the roof. I have a brand new Vogelsang "boxwod" stove that I bought for the house and decided not to use. Can I use this for some heat in the workshop, will a stobe of this size do any good (handles 25" wood)? Any safty problems or concerns? Any advise appreciated!

Terry

P.S. -- can't afford to buy another stove (gas, etc) right now, so if this is a no-go I'm just going to be cold....

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buickanddeere

12-24-2003 07:31:01




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
As Greg Or stated, untill you seal off warm air below the joists or rafters your stove will just melt snow off the roof. Strapping and cheapo plywood don't cost very much. More heat is lost from building from airflow into/out of the building than heat radiating through walls/windows.



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Terry

12-23-2003 19:40:01




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
My workshop is about 27x30, with about an 18 foot ceiling in the center sloping down to the eves. It's metal, insulated to eight feet with paneled inner walls.

Thanks for all the advise -- I think I'll give it a shot when I have the cash for the pipes. We've got about 5 acres wooded and I have about two cords cut/split already, might as well get some good from them (and stay warm!!!).

I was raised with wood heat -- both fireplace and stove -- so I'm used to the warm-up times etc, even though that was some time ago.

Thanks again -- any more advise also appreciated.

Terry

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Scott

12-23-2003 17:09:03




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
I have a 20'x40'x 14ft ceiling, well insulated shop that I heat with a 26" 100 year old parlor stove. I bought a through the roof stainless simpson duravent chimney kit that cost around 375 bucks complete. It takes about 45 min, to raise the temp from 40 to 80 degrees. I use 2 ceiling fans to move air around and it gets so hot somtimes that I have to open the walk in door to cool it down. My insurance inspecter oked it as long as I used the properly installed chimney system and proper clearences from combustables and no barrel stoves. Make sure you use dry wood and periodically inspect and clean the chimney. Wood makes a nice cheap heat source if used properly but it is not push button and requires commen sense to safely use.

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Scott Green

12-23-2003 17:22:04




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 Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Scott, 12-23-2003 17:09:03  
I'm speaking for myself , and anyone who has ever used a barrell stove with the "SOTZ" barrell stove kit. They make the best wood stove ever. Anyone who has used the "SOTZ" barrell stove kit/barrell knows what I mean. Yet , so many insurance people are dead set against them.



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TrampArt

11-18-2004 18:33:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Scott Green, 12-23-2003 17:22:04  
Amen. I have used a Sotz Barrel Stove for more than 20 years. I wouldn't sell it for $1,000 if I couldn't get another one (go ahead and offer me $1,000 for it, because I have another one in the shed). And no - they are not like any other barrel stove.



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Joefoos

12-30-2006 20:26:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to TrampArt, 11-18-2004 18:33:19  
Hi, I was given a SOTZ double barrel wood stove, and after putting it together, noticed that the door hinges on the door side are missing, I need to see a picture or drawing of how the orginal ones look, so I can make some. If anyone can show me a drawing or picture of how they looked, I would truly be most grateful. tyvm



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wdTom

12-23-2003 18:35:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Scott Green, 12-23-2003 17:22:04  
Barrel stoves are great especially for occaisional use. The thin steel will not last too long. clean out all the ash is you are not going to use the stove for the summer though, it will hold dampness. A thin stove will heat up quick but not hold heat long, while a thick one will heat up slowly but will hold heat longer, more even heat. There is a real difference.



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Scott Green

12-24-2003 08:13:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to wdTom, 12-23-2003 18:35:23  
Yes , your on the money Tom. Very fast heat compared to thick steel/cast stove. Never burnt a barrell out yet. As you said , if ashes aren't cleaned out when not in use , dampness gets in ashes , causeing barrell to rot. I have also never had one rot , but have seen ones that have.



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Binder-Man

12-23-2003 15:07:49




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
My shop is 32x40 metal pole barn,all insulated and dry wall. My wood stove is a Northern Leader 2027, I put triple wall through the wall to a block chimney with tile liner. Here in northwest ILLinois it gets pretty nippy outside and this stove really heats the shop, the ceilings are 10ft. with two ceiling fans which really help. I am on our local fire dept. and my stove is hooked up far better than what the state fire codes call for, and my insurance man still was skeptical about insuring it. My agent told me what is killing us recreational shop guys is people not thinking when putting in a stove, and burning the place down,costing the insurance companies big money replacing the shop and all the contents. I think the insurance companies should go on a shop by shop basis, if they are installed correctly insure it!! Binder-Man

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Mac

12-23-2003 14:43:59




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
Paul has an excellent point about insurance, dont get left holding the bag.



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KURT

12-23-2003 14:09:30




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
The cost of the pipe is expensive too, maybe as much as $1000.



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RT

12-23-2003 13:29:00




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
I don`t know how tall your shop is but if you put a donut in your pipe going up it will keep 85% of your heat inside instead of letting it flow outside. Also if you run your pipe through the wall out near the top and go up you won`t have to worry about leaks in your roof. RT



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Wes

12-23-2003 13:16:56




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
I have a 24'x40' shop with only half insulated walls. The ceiling is about 20'. I use a homemade wood stove and I can heat the shop to about 65 degrees. just remember that you need to start the fire early enough to warm the shop, tools, and whatever you are working on before you go out there.



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Paul Janke

12-24-2003 16:12:47




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 Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Wes, 12-23-2003 13:16:56  
How do you start the fire before you go out there? Don't you need to be out there to light it? Do you have a remote starter? (Don't take me too seriously.)



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Zak

12-23-2003 13:07:44




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
We've got a Fisher stove of about the same size in our garage and it gets right toasty in there when we've got her stoked up. As you're in an unattached building, you may not have many regulations concerning your insurance. Double check first. We used triple-wall chimney pipe in 3 foot section s (available at Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.), extended it two feet above the roof ridgeline. Oh yeah, quit using gas or kero as parts cleaner with a stove nearby. A better solution (literally) is diesel. Good luck, stay warm! Zak

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paul

12-23-2003 12:00:31




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
Your insurance company will have a say in this, more than anything. If you wish to have your building covered, it may be a no-go - that crap started 5 years ago.

I guess gas or oil stoves, they like to have the flame 2' or so above the floor, something about flamable liquid vapors liking to concentrate on the floor. Might at least need to follow such guidelines. Chimneys are often the root of all evil fires, you need a good wood one, masonary is better, insulated metal with proper setbacks is cheaper.

Otherwise it will work fine, should give you some heat.

--->Paul

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Ben in KY

12-23-2003 11:29:09




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
How big is your shop ? Your stove will help, but might not make it toasty in there. Just remember it has a fire in it when using flamable stuff in the shop.



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old

12-23-2003 10:55:07




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 Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Terry, 12-23-2003 10:01:53  
I use a barrel stove in my shop, it doesn't heat itup real good but it doesknock the chill out a little



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D.J.

12-23-2003 14:44:38




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 Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to old, 12-23-2003 10:55:07  
Make sure your insurance company doesn't find out about the woodburning stove. They will drop your policy. This happened to a friend of mine.



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VaTom

12-23-2003 18:31:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to D.J., 12-23-2003 14:44:38  
My experience is that inspected, where applicable, woodstoves are fine with insurance companies. I only heat with wood, home and shops, and had no problem when I recently switched insurance companies.



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Stick

12-23-2003 13:15:42




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 Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to old, 12-23-2003 10:55:07  
my shop's really well insulated, but my double barrel stove gets it roasty toasty.



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Greg Or

12-23-2003 11:44:04




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 Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to old, 12-23-2003 10:55:07  
What we did one time in a uninsulated shop ceiling to help hold the heat down, was to string a grid of hay twine to support a heavy mil plastic.
100 mph tape on the seams & walls to seal.
Fold back or remove when done so the building will vent/breathe.



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Farmall Don

12-23-2003 12:41:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Greg Or, 12-23-2003 11:44:04  
Thanks for the idea. I was going to put up the rigid insulation boards to the bottom of the trusses, but Ill try this first. Those boards are very costly.

I put my wood buring stove in last week. I put it on a table about 3.5ft above the floor for safety.



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Steve450

12-23-2003 13:19:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Wood stove in the workshop? in reply to Farmall Don, 12-23-2003 12:41:50  
You could also try an old forced air oil furnace. Heats up quicker than a wood stove and not as much of a PITA!!!. These can be found cheap from old mobile homes and such. I have both in my shop. I start the oil burner and then if I'm going to work for a while I'll lite a fire in the stove. Once the wood stove kicks in, the furnace hardly runs. It's nice to work in a T-shirt when it's 10 degrees out!!!

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