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impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrench?

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Paul (C IL)

12-18-2003 08:37:24

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I have a set of impact sockets, but they are the only 1/2" drive sockets I have.

Is there any problem using these on a hand ratchet or on a torque wrench? I know you are not supposed to use the chrome ones on an impact wrench, but I wondered what issues there would be going the other way around?

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Tom Brown

12-20-2003 04:42:17

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

Three years ago I needed a set of six point deep well sockets for my tool box. I bought a set of impact sockets because they were so much cheaper. I use them a lot and have NEVER regretted it. I still use the regular sockets for small jobs but when it's tough I use the impact sockets on my rachet and breaker bar. You are better off using a little heavier socket like them.

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DaveWis

12-19-2003 00:29:49

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

As others have stated, they are thicker because it makes up for them being softer. They are softer for two reasons. One, so they will not shatter which could cause injury. And secondly, so they will wear instead of the anvil [the square drive of the gun]. They can be used on hand drive tools no problem. Hope this helps.

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buck

12-18-2003 13:35:38

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

Other than the obvious difference in the two, the major diffrence is in the hardness. Impact soft chrome sockets hard. The added wall thickness of the impact sockets makes them near equal in strengh. In case of breakage the chrome socket may shatter causing flying pieces where the softer impact socket will crack, bend, deform but is not as likely to cause flying debries. This is the major difference in the two. Same can be said for the difference in a claw hammer and a ballpeen hammer.

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Missouri Boy

12-18-2003 12:22:48

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

You can easily wreck your ratchet, Break over bar extension, or your arm. Something has to give when unlimited pressure is exerted.

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moonlite

12-18-2003 20:19:15

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Re: Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque w in reply to Missouri Boy, 12-18-2003 12:22:48

The socket being stronger would not mean that the ratcher, extension or breaker bar would be ruined just because there is a stronger socket on it. Apparently you have no experience using wrenches.

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Dave Wi.

12-18-2003 12:12:51

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

Impacts are ok especialy on a torque wrench,they are 6 sided and less likly to slip or round a nut.

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john

12-18-2003 12:16:57

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Re: Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque w in reply to Dave Wi., 12-18-2003 12:12:51

While using regular sockets on a impact can damage them because they are thin walled and 12 point to get into tight places.
Using impact sockets on a ratchet would be no problem at all until you try to use them in a tight spot as they are thicked walled and 6 point.

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MapleStone

12-18-2003 09:45:33

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

I have used 3/8 impact sockets for years with my ratchets. No problem other than what Tim V said, sometimes they won't fit between a fastener and a wall or a well. You should never damage an impact socket by hand. Now cheater pipes are the exception.

The one other thing you might run into is that some impact sockets don't have the detent for the ball in you ratchet to hold the socket on. And some have a hole for a pin to fit into, these can be hard to get off you ratchet. Neither of these issues would prevent me from using them.

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Rob in Virginia

12-18-2003 09:28:41

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

I recently tried to used a 1/2inch deep well impact socket with a ratchet. The socket split down the side. I probably put some lateral pressure on the side wall. I suspect the metal was too soft to take the side pressure.

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RZ (Wa)

12-18-2003 10:55:31

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Re: Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque w in reply to Rob in Virginia, 12-18-2003 09:28:41

I've come across both impacts and 'regular' sockets with side cracks (deep wells more than the short or stubby kind). After inspecting them the one thing they have had in common is hammer marks on the top as though someone in the past has tried to force the socket over a rounded or scored nut or bolt. Something you might check on when buying them used, at acutions or yard sales.

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TimV

12-18-2003 08:47:25

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Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque wrenc in reply to Paul (C IL), 12-18-2003 08:37:24

Paul: It shouldn't be a problem--lots of people only have impact sockets, particularly in large or seldom-used sizes. They're built thicker and heavier than regular sockets, and so occasionally you may have a spot you can't get into with an impact socket. Other than that, there's no appreciable difference.

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12-29-2003 17:30:16

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Re: Re: impact sockets on hand ratchet or torque w in reply to TimV, 12-18-2003 08:47:25

For sure I can recomend Craftsman's 1/2 inch drive deep wells... I tried to use one on the crankshaft of my SBC to act as a spacer on the gear puller I was using to try an get the timing gear off the front! Ironically... the gear pullers main shaft was the same size as the hole just minus the threads. How did I figure that out? Torque it down and it rips the threads clear off down the center of the socket!

Good bit of torque too, socket came out just fine... a couple less threads on the puller though!

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