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Pulling/recovery tip

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Brother Dave

12-14-2003 11:56:54




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I was talking to an old friend and he mentioned that one time when offering to pull an NAA out of some deep mud, he was admonished by the tractor owner that the 4x4 my friend was about to use was not gonna do the job, that a crawler was needed. A bet should have been made. My friend fastened a chain to the tractor and a separate chain to his truck. He then took a old tire (no rim) and used it as a "spring" or a bungie by connecting both ends of the chains to it. He could really give it heck without having to worry about pulling the bumper off or without losing any of the momentum once both chains became taunt. Sprung that NAA out of the hole like a sling-shot without any throttle from the tractor! Have you ever heard of or seen this before?

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Common Sense

12-30-2003 22:38:54




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
The safe thing to do which is usually the least favorable to do is to use a heavier than nessecary cable, chain, rope or snatch strap, attach it to something that will not break and wrap it every five feet with a rug, tarp or tie tyres less rims to it every five feet. In my experience I have never had a problem. We also use the tyre in the middle of the rope for towing large vessels in heavy or following seas.

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shoot

12-15-2003 20:37:28




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
There was a tow strap called the Snatch-Em Strap that was rated at around 20,00 lbs. I used one with great success many times, it was about 20' long and had a 30% stretch to it. You could really get a launch on the stuck vehicle when you hit the end of the stretch.



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Larry

12-16-2003 03:13:02




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 Re: Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to shoot, 12-15-2003 20:37:28  
Had a neighbor with a stretch strap like the one you're talking about, and used it like you describe. Him and his son were pulling a tractor with a pickup or farm truck, gave a mighty jerk, pulled the hitch off, flew back and hit his father in the head, tearing off one side of his head. His son held his fathers brains inside his skull as a neighbor hauled them to the hospital. Needless to say he didn't survive. I personally don't think its worth the risk, jerking and pulling on something, but thats just my humble opinion.

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Greywolf

12-16-2003 04:06:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Larry, 12-16-2003 03:13:02  
Its the old adage.....if some is good then more must be better.

Common sense needs to come into play which seems a bit lacking now a days compared to yesteryear.

They have their limits just like chains do.



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Stick

12-15-2003 21:30:31




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 Re: Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to shoot, 12-15-2003 20:37:28  
yep..... I have a 60,000 lb snatch-em strap..... ...used mega times in my former life 4-wheeling with a Blazer, a power wagon and a deuce and a half. Yeah..... ..do not EVER hook it onto a ball, and always, even with a winch cable, throw something over top..... ..seen a 2" ball go thru a windsheild and embed itself in a girl's head once..... she didn't live.



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Mac

12-16-2003 07:23:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Stick, 12-15-2003 21:30:31  
Yep, that reminds me of the guy who had a cat. 5/8 cable and was trying to pull a tree over. Cable snapped and all that saved his buns was he had a good cage over the operators area. Sounded like a shot gun when it snapped.



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Chris Brown

12-15-2003 18:31:45




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
I was reading in an off road 4x4 magazine a few years ago about someone using a nylon strap and a chev suburban to unstick a truck,He had the strap looped over the hitch ball ,he ran at it hard and snatched it hard and it snaped off the ball and it went through the windshield and right through the drivers head. Lesson learned the hard way..There is a formula somewhere to figger out how much pressure is exerted in a run and snatch situation,but they figgered out there was around 80,000 lbs hitting the ball that failed on the 7000 lb suburban.

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wdTom

12-14-2003 17:52:52




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
A 5/8 or 3/4" nylon rope will work the same. These are the sizes I use for my size of equipment anyway. Nylon is almost like a rubber band. I splice an eye in each end, put a length of chain on to keep the nylon from being cut. When towing with nylon there is no jerking and you can, as with the tire, snap things out of stucks.



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John

12-15-2003 18:31:41




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 Re: Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to wdTom, 12-14-2003 17:52:52  
They make special bungie cord tow ropes for that stuff. never seen one in action though.



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Indydirtfarmer

12-14-2003 15:05:04




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
One more trick to add to the one you've already mentioned. If one of those chains should snap, they'll take someones head off. They will fly towards the tractor/truck with alarming power. Throw a tarp, or even a heavy coat over the chain(s). That will "deaden" them. I watched someone almost get decapitated by a cable breaking, during my years in the army. Chains aren'r quite as bad, but why take the chance. John

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John Ne.

12-14-2003 15:01:42




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
At this point I have to warn the new guys that if a log chain separates, the hook or chain can come right thru the back window of a tractor cab. If you don't have a cab, the tractor operator can get an instant bowtie, just be careful and use common sense. John in Nebr.



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JD-Tractor

12-14-2003 14:36:21




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
Hey !! If you all paid attention in 9th grade science you wouldn't be so mystified by so much of this stuff.just my 2 cents



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old

12-14-2003 12:02:57




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 Re: Pulling/recovery tip in reply to Brother Dave, 12-14-2003 11:56:54  
Yes its anold trick that works well it works the same with nylon tow strap



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