Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Tool Talk Discussion Forum

compressor

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Clete

12-12-2003 08:17:21




Report to Moderator

I know it's not the best, but the best I can afford right now. I have a Craftsman 6HP 33 gallon 150 PSI compressor. I will be using it to inflate tires, blow the work area clean and occaional air ratchet. I have 25' of hose that connects to the pressure. Do I need the filters I hear you talking about or the long lines?




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
OK-AL

12-13-2003 07:50:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
I've got a 6hp, 30-gallon tank compressor that I bought new over ten years ago. I installed it in a pole barn on my property. Then I built my house using nail guns and up to 100 feet of air hose. The compressor is still going strong and supplys all of my needs. (It's now in my shop)

I haven't put any water traps or filters on my lines, but then I don't do any painting, either.

In my opinion, you should NEVER use plastic pipe for air supply lines. A man nearby used it in his auto shop, a line broke under pressure and a piece hit his eye - which he lost. I would never use plastic pipe for air lines, they're not worth the hazard potential.

Enjoy your new toy.

OK-AL

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gavin M

12-12-2003 23:11:18




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
A real good tip for small compressors is to see if you can change the voltage to 220V if you are running on 110. Most "compressor-duty" motors (read light) pull a ton of amps on startup. My machine used to regularly flip a 20A breaker, especially when cold. It was a real effort to get it to run on those -30 mornings (Northern Alberta) when the shop was still cold. After rewiring to 220V the problem disappeared. The motor comes up to speed much faster and runs cooler. Usually there is a wiring diagram for either voltage by the strain relief (where the power wire enters the motor) and an access plate to get at the connections. If you're unsure, an electrician can do the job in less than an hour. My machine (5 HP) is connected to a 220V, 30A circuit, but I doubt it draws more than 10A even on cold starts. I built an air header out of 1" pipe around my shop, with connections at convenient points. I put a set of Wilkerson filters near the compressor (oil, particulates, charcoal), and a sub-header for painting in one bay. That has a Fisher 67 regulator and a silica-gel dryer for -50 dewpoint air. This runs a HVLP spray gun. I also built an oiler manifold that I can connect at any of the take-offs fir air tool oil. For running out to the yard, I have 2 100' foot sections of 3/4" rubber hose, with a lighter 25' 3/8" whip on the end. Lastly, I put a steam trap style autodump on the air compressor tank. This eliminates the hassle of blowing down the machine to get the water out (not as bad a problem here as in other places, the air is quite dry). I feel I have a good setup and was able to make it happen by picking up most of the stuff I have through dispersal auctions from finished industrial projects. Note for Kelvin: I think that the only reason Sch. 80 1/2" pipe was recommended for air service has to do with the thread depth allowance. The main run of 1/2" Sch. 40 pipe is good for much more than 150 psi, even with common ERW black pipe. Where trouble occurs is when the threads are cut for connections. If this is done sloppily it is possible to have very little material, unsupported, under the base of the thread roots. The problem is worse in vibrating service, such as a compressor discharge. If you've been running Sch. 40 pipe for 15 years, I wouldn't worry about it as if it was likely to fail, it would have done so by now. As an engineer, I typically specify Sch. 80 pipe for utility air, except for high vibration conditions, where I use Sch. 160. Good Luck.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Kelvin

12-12-2003 19:13:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
I use a Craftsman 5hp. w/30 gal tank. I installed a water trap/regulator where the pipe from it comes into my shop, Its in its own shed out back. That makes my shop much quieter. I regulate it to 90-100 psi. If you check the manufacturers specs, most air tools are rated at this pressure.

I plumbed it in with 1/2" sch.40 galvanized water pipe. When I did this in 1988 I was told to use schedule 80, but its worked well so far.

I wonder about PVC. You have to have pretty good joints, and I wonder how it ages. Not long ago I dropped a 20'piece of PVC from an attic where I work, and it broke in half. I bet its not much more than 10 years old.

The compressor is just now beginning to show its age. I also installed water/goop traps at both air hose connectors. These are just a 2ft piece of 1/2" pipe with a cap that extend below the tee where the quick connect is mounted.

You can't have too much hose-I have connected all my hoses together for enough reach to air up a tire on a tractor that was in immovable condition.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
greenbeanman

12-12-2003 13:01:14




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
For most of what you are doing you sure don't need 150 psi. See if there is an EASY way to set the pressure a lot lower, say 75 psi. You will save LOTS of electricity/money with the lower normal working pressure. Boost the psi only when you need the higher pressures.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Russ

12-13-2003 06:37:16




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: compressor in reply to greenbeanman, 12-12-2003 13:01:14  
You should have at least 100 psi for air tools



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
buck

12-12-2003 13:40:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: compressor in reply to greenbeanman, 12-12-2003 13:01:14  

Very good point you have here. This also reduces heat and moisture build up in the system.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mac

12-12-2003 12:42:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
For what you are using it for, Nix on the filters, oil the air tools each time you use them, But drain the tank frequently.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Allan

12-12-2003 11:09:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
Clete,

The best compressor I was ever around was an outfit that ran two systems in tandem. Eight cylinders off of two (real) 15 HP motors into two 200 gallon tanks tied together. Cost: $13,800.

It did the same thing your Craftsman compressor does. Supply air.

I dunno, I don't think there is a thing wrong with those little outfits. They do just fine for a small shop.

My 2 cents,

Allan

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john

12-12-2003 10:03:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: compressor in reply to Clete, 12-12-2003 08:17:21  
MY 2 CENTS..... .....
Filters-- no; if you were painting I would say yes to remove any moisture and small dirt specks that would dammage a otherwise perfect paint job.
Hoses-- I would say you need more than 25ft. Get a 50ft add on. I buy 3/8 rubber hose but the cheaper 3/8 PVC works good. (but get 3/8)
More important is to keep your ratchet lubericated with air tool oil and to drain the water out your air tank regularly.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy