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Mig welding stainless steel problems

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al

12-11-2003 18:36:16




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I have been having problems getting our mig to keep running ss wire.
I have changed liners, goose necks,smooth or serated drive rolls.

runs for an hr then jams and won't push it through..045and .035. Could the liners be too soft or should I run a plastic liner?

Miller 32sp suitcase feeder.
any thoughts?




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Bill 52 8n

12-13-2003 17:08:24




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 Re: Mig welding stainless steel problems in reply to al, 12-11-2003 18:36:16  
I was taught that you should use a one size up contact tip when running stainless steel mig. For .035 wire use a .045 tip, this is because SS wire has a tendancy to expand more as it heats and melts off making it bind in the contact tip.

Bill



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T_Bone

12-12-2003 15:18:19




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 Re: Mig welding stainless steel problems in reply to al, 12-11-2003 18:36:16  
Hi Al,

Lets start from the tip and work backwards:

Wrong size contactor tip(CT)?
SS also has a habbit of filling the cup up with fine metal to short out against the CT. Needs to be kept clean. A product called Nozzle Clean also helps. Next check the contact insualtor. This is the part that the cup slides onto. Look for cracks or missing pieces.

Next check where the liner end mates with the CT. This needs to be cut square without ruff edges. The end gap between the CT and liner should be snug.

Next check the liner for kinks. Slowly draw the liner between two fingers. Any bumps felt on the liner, then the liner needs replaced. A teflon liner works well with SS wire.

Next check the roll feed tip for excessive ware and burr free. Also make sure it fits tight against the liner end. Check the distance from the tip to the drive rolls. This should be about 1/32" from the drive roll.

Next check the drive rolls are in alignment with the liner feed tip and the rolls are the correct size for the wire size.

Check for the correct tension on the drive rolls. Back the tension completly off, then add tension until the wire will not slip on the rolls while holding firm pressure with two fingers on the wire at the CT.

Next use a felt wire cleaner before the drive rolls. I use a foam ear plug that works well. I poke a hole in the foam with the wire letting the large end of the foam rest against the roll face.

Next check for the correct wire spool tension. Back off on the spool tension, then add tension until the wire lays evenly on the spool without becoming a wire rats nest. To test, press the trigger while observing the wire spool when it stops. When you let off the gun trigger the spool should stop moving at the same time.

Run several feet of wire thru the gun (without welding) while observing the spool for smoothness. The wire spool should run smoothly without jerking. Flip the roll tension lever up and rewind the wire on the spool being careful not to cross the wire.

Next observe the wire spool while welding. Once again the spool should be smooth as when not welding.

You didn't say where the wire was hanging up so this should help no matter where the problem is.

Also, My main puter crashed and alot of my files are not on this puter, so until I get my other puter up and running again, I won't be answering alot of welding questions.

T_Bone

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Gene Davis (GA.)

12-11-2003 20:09:48




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 Re: Mig welding stainless steel problems in reply to al, 12-11-2003 18:36:16  
Have you tried one of the felt pad lubricators that clip on the wire with a clothes pin and are kept wet with a teflon lubricant? You simply put a few drops of thje lubricanton each day? We used them with good luck on our wire welders in the mining industry. Gene Davis



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