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welding with a generator ( need quick response)

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Lewis

12-11-2003 18:16:47




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I need to weld where no power is available. I have a Lincoln 225 ac stick welder. Can I use this welder doing light duty work with a 6000 watt generator?
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Lewis




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Fred OH

12-12-2003 11:01:34




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
In response to Bill's post about the duty cycle...it's 20% duty cycle at 225 amps if I remember right. See that circle around the 75 amp position on the dial? Thats to remind you that it's 100% duty cycle at that position and you can use it for things like a carbon arc or pipe thawing all day long without fear of over working it. At least the ones I've had were that way. Of course that means with a decent machine that isn't choked full of years of dirt inside...blow them out once in a while. Fred OH

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Kerry

12-12-2003 05:20:28




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
I did this quite a bit last summer and it worked great. I have the same Lincoln welder and a 5500w Generac generator. I was working on our corral and only running about 90 amps but it worked just fine. I don't think I'd try running it too much higher than that, but I was welding 5/8" sucker rod to 3" steel pipe and it didn't have any problems at all. It's not as handy as having a "real" portable welder with a motor on it, but it works just fine.

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Tom

12-11-2003 21:23:07




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
I have heard of it being done - - with limited sucess; and great strain on both pieces of equipment. If you have much repeated need for field welding, then I recommend a Miller Bobcat which will handily replace both machines, and last for years and years.



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Gene Davis (GA.)

12-11-2003 20:14:06




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
I have done it with my 8kw generator, and the exact same welder. Does o.k., just don't try to get bigger than a 1/8" rod, and let the generator breathe a few minutes occasionally to cool the windings. Gene Davis



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Chris Brown

12-11-2003 20:00:42




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
Yes. I have a coleman 5500 watt genset and a ac/dc lincoln.They work pretty good together.Stick with a smaller rod 3/32 and keep it under 120 amp,it'll do fine. If you work it to hard it'll just pop the circuit breakers on the gen. feel the air coming off the gen to see how hard you are working it.



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Bill-KCKs

12-11-2003 19:43:56




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
I'm not going to claim to be an expert at all, but I'd give it a try. The Lincoln welder is only rated at 20% duty-cycle, meaning one minute operation out of 5. Don't run more than 1 minute on and 4 off. So its not as if you are going to have maximum load on the generator all of the time. I don't know what you are going to weld, but I doubt that you'll be running the welder at max output either.

Keep your welds short and let the generator cool between welds.

Free advice, worth every cent.....
Bill

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TimV

12-11-2003 19:13:06




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
Lewis: This got covered about a month ago--you may want to check the archives for some more detailed informaion. The "executive summary" is that you can, but it's not recommended--either by the manufacturer or most people that have tried it. Lincoln recommends a minimum of a 15kw generator for their AC225 "tombstone", which is what I assume you have. However, on light work with small rods, you MIGHT be able to swing it.

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arthur

12-11-2003 18:37:02




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 Re: welding with a generator ( need quick response in reply to Lewis, 12-11-2003 18:16:47  
the proof is in the pudding! try the combo. befor you go out in the weeds get some scrap and practice at home may have to go to smaller rod. i wish you luck and good weather art



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Lewis

12-12-2003 18:17:45




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 Re: Re: welding with a generator ( need quick resp in reply to arthur, 12-11-2003 18:37:02  
Thanks everyone for the response. I will give it a try. Thanks again!
Lewis



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