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BobInMN

12-03-2003 16:03:04




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Its been several years since I bought any new steel for a project. The supplier I had at the time told me that as a rule-of-thumb when planning a project I should figure 50 cents a pound for new steel. If I remember right it always came out pretty close to the actual price. Is this still a good rule-of-thumb in your opinion?




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Walt

12-05-2003 20:24:49




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
Bob:

I don't know about MN but here in northern CA, our shop, a small metal fabricator, buys new steel for $.25 to $.35 a pound. That is for plate, bar, shapes (angle, channel and beam) and square or rectangular tube. We regularly sell to walk in trade at 25% mark up, meaning around $.45 a pound. Any processing, such as cutting, punching or bending, is added to that.
In my thirty years plus in the business, the price of steel has been one of the few constants. Everything seems to have increased by a factor of 10 since 1970, but not steel. Even the latest round of tariffs only increased our cost by 1 to 2 cents a pound and those are expected to come off soon. Stainless, with the ever-changing price adders for nickel and chrome, can vary from well under a dollar a pound to $1.50 a pound over the course of a year. Aluminum, although it doesn't have the excuse of imported alloys, can still vary from under a dollar a pound to $1.35 a pound over a year. There are enough local suppliers of these materials that we consumers have a small but effective amount of leverage over price increases. Free market still rules.

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Bob

12-04-2003 06:18:31




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
If Mr. President Bush lifts the steel tariffs like this article says will happen today

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then we can probably expect a little drop in prices, but we'll be buying more foreign steel.



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Lil-Farmer

12-04-2003 03:55:10




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
Just purchased (yesterday) 240 feet of 6", 15# per foot H-Beam. .40 per lb. New steel, not salvage.



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KURT (mi)

12-04-2003 02:34:46




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
I have to buy steel to make fixtures and stuff for work, I just put this order in yesterday, 1018CRS, 1" diameter, 18feet long ($40)(this would be48LBS). I mostly order and work with aluminum.



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JMS/MN

12-03-2003 21:58:35




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
My local supplier charges 60 cents per lb for most stock, but if I go two towns away I can get common sizes for about 45 cents per lb. If I settle for mill ends of sheets, it is 25-30 cents per lb. Salvage yards, I can get I-beam, etc. for 15- 20 cents per lb. Bucket edge, locally, is a bit over a buck per lb.



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old

12-03-2003 16:14:30




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 Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 16:03:04  
You better add 25 cents maybe 50 cents to that now, I don't know how long its been since you played with the new stuff but like every thing else its going up.



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Mike

12-03-2003 19:05:14




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 Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to old, 12-03-2003 16:14:30  
Man I wish I could buy steel for .75lb. I priced some square tube and figured 1.00-1.25lb it was more like 2.00lb----I'll keep using salvage,it's usually free



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old

12-03-2003 19:16:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to Mike, 12-03-2003 19:05:14  
Ya I agree I have a big used steel pile that people have told me to sell for scrap and I've told them NO Way. I built my shop out of scrap /salvage junk and only have about $200 in a building that is worth about $10,000 by what I pay in taxes for it



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BobInMN

12-03-2003 19:14:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to Mike, 12-03-2003 19:05:14  
I need to pick up some 1/4" X 3" X 4" square tube that weighs 10.5 lbs a foot. Are you telling me that it will cost $21.00 a foot?



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old

12-03-2003 19:43:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 19:14:47  
Price also depends on what you are looking at, some you can get for 50 cents a pound and others are $2 a pound it just depends on what it is. Oh by the way Bob do you know any Margs in your area



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BobInMN

12-03-2003 19:55:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to old, 12-03-2003 19:43:23  
Old, No I can't say that I know any Margs.



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BobInMN

12-03-2003 19:19:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 19:14:47  
I priced 3/8" X 3" grader blade last week and it was only $1.90 a foot. A piece of 1/4" X 15" X 84" steel plate, bent every 2" to make a grader moldboard was quoted at $100.00. That included the price of the steel and the machine work to bend it.



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T_Bone

12-03-2003 20:01:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Price of New Steel in reply to BobInMN, 12-03-2003 19:19:16  
Hi Bob,

I've been paying .50lb for the past year for common HR, .61lb for CR and .55lb galvanized from a local mfg, the steel mfg area rep. I usually buy 300lbs plus at a time tho of mix and match.

The steel mfg's will no longer do business with indivduals like they did in the early 90's when they were going broke.

When I last worked, early 90's, .44lb was our common price for galvanized but in 10000lb minimum quanity. SS-304 was $1.35lb and 2.45lb for Aluminum.

T_Bone

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