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what settings do I use to sharpen a chain

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Fred

11-27-2003 17:37:15




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What are the two settings (in degrees?) for chain sharpening. lost intructions. And thanks for all the posts from everyone on the bar and chain questions!




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mj

11-28-2003 12:21:34




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
On a chain with the proper set you can "feel" the angles with your file to set your stroke..... .just remember to pull the file into the tooth as you go so that you are not just cutting down. Your saw will probably cut off to one direction or another at first but after awhile (took me about a month of cutting 2-3 cords of pinyon pine a day) you'll catch on to it. Examine the teeth when you're not cutting right so you can adjust your technique. Don't forget to reset your depth-gauges as the teeth wear down. :-)

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cole in mo

11-28-2003 04:55:23




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
I think mine has the 35 degree angle and I used to sharpen them with a file, sometimes it came out ok, sometimes it cut crooked, then I bought one of those handy dandy clamp on the bar sharpning divices. after the first time with that it went in the corner, and I just take the chains to the guy uptown, $2.00 bucks, there sharp, cut straight, I'm happy.



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Joel Harman

11-28-2003 03:43:54




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
Look at the back of one of the cutters. There is a line etched that shows when one needs to replace the chain. It will show the correct angle.

If you are asking what angle you need to use you should be spending $5 to have a professional sharpen for you. You will be much happier with results. I have cut logs for 30 yr - I let the saw shop sharpen my chains.



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T_Bone

11-28-2003 16:52:29




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 Re: Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Joel Harman, 11-28-2003 03:43:54  
Thanks Joel as I learned something new today. I never noticed the line.

T_Bone



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Dan in Ore

11-28-2003 02:59:40




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
I just drop mine at the saw shop. 5 bucks, noon the next day, life doesn't get any better. I have 4 chains so I can keep going all weekend if needed.

I used to sharpen myself, but when you figure the time and the fact that you can't get them exactly right every time and the angles seem to compound each time, it just makes better sense for me to do it this way.

Dan



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jokers

11-27-2003 21:50:52




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
Hi Fred

The angles are not cast in stone but these angles will work for 99% of all felling and bucking.

Topplate angle, what you see when you look directly down on the chain, should be 30°, give or take 5°, depending on the style of chain. Chisel, 30-35°, semi chisel(rounded corner)25-30°.

Sideplate or hook angle is normally around 60° for chisel and 80-90° for semi but it should never have a back lean. This angle is accomplished by how high you hold the file relative to the tooth. Holding the file lower produces a lower sideplate angle = more hook and a sharper inside topplate angle.Obviously holding the file higher produces just the opposite effect. Normally 1/10-1/5 of the file diameter is exposed above the topplate.

Chisel chain may also benefit from dropping the tail of the file 10° as you file inside to out.

Don`t forget the depth gauges or "rakers". Make sure that they are between .020 and .030 below the topplate. The factory spec is often stamped on the gauge. Lowering them too much makes the saw more dangerous and grabby and will probably lower your productivity.

Any of the angles and clearances are open to tweaking for your particular use, don`t be afraid to experiment in small stages.

Russ

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T_Bone

11-27-2003 20:12:28




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
Hi Fred,

Just use a protractor or a bevel gauge and measure your existing tooth angle. You will know for sure this way.


T_Bone



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RoyB

11-27-2003 20:01:20




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
Fred;
The angle all depends on the type of chain. 25' to bar at 10' off flat for the chain on my 262xp. Many chains use either 30' or 35'. Hope this helps. Roy



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John

11-27-2003 19:30:30




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 Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to Fred, 11-27-2003 17:37:15  
Fred, I hope you saved the box the chain came in, as it should give you all the angles you need. I am guessing it is gone?



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Fred

12-03-2003 17:29:24




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 Re: Re: what settings do I use to sharpen a chain in reply to John, 11-27-2003 19:30:30  
Thanks for the info. Still using the saw shop till I have more time though. Did file a couple
chains to chip and they worked great. Thanks again for the angles.



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