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Iowan

11-22-2003 15:08:49




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I would like to install a telephone line about 300 feet to my shop. The telephone company wants about 200. to run a under ground line to the shop. Will a chain saw work making a small trench to the shop? Even if a 20" new blade cost 35.00 it would be cheaper to use the chain saw. Just want some advise on the subject. I think it would work.




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HJP

11-29-2003 18:11:19




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
NOTHIN FOR NOTHIN, HOW ABOUT A NEW CORDLESS PHONE. MY SHOP IS 500FT AND A 30X30 STEEL POLE BARN . A 2.4 GHZ PHONE WORKS GREAT.
YOU CAN GET SEVERAL PHONES ON THE SAME BASE IN THE HOUSE. I GOT A BASE IN THE DEN AND SATTLITE PHONE WITH A CHARGING BASE IN THE KITCHEN,BASEMENT,BEDROOM AND GARAGE.
DONT MEAN TO INSULT BUT IN MY AREA(SOIL) DIRECT BURY IS NOT GOOD, GLASIER PACK ,ROCK,SAND,CLAY AND FROST WILL EVENTUALLY SNAP OR CUT/FRACTURE A LINE IF ITS NOT IN CONDUIT OR DEEP ENOUGH (42 INCHES). 3X THE EXPENSE AND TIME !!!! A NEW PHONE WAS CHEAPER !!!!

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Kent

11-25-2003 19:43:49




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
Iowan, I have burried many a mile of cable for GTE and later Verizon. If I were you I would track down one of the bury crews that are in your area and "make them a deal" and they are likely to do it after hours or "on their break".
Another option is similar to other postings, Take off one shank(ripper) off of your box blade and weld a @3/4" pipe bent into a sweeping right angle onto the back of the shank allowing it to be re installed on the blade. make a bracket to hold the U/G cable reel you talked the telephone guys out of and dig you a starter hole at one end and have someone stand on the end of cable and start "plowing" it in ..... ..
.02 cents worth!!Kent

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ftmerle

11-23-2003 17:48:41




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
I have an old (BLUE) Homelite that I use for a trencher every once in a while. It works fine down to about 6 inches. I switch to the good bar and chain for wood and have had no trouble with the clutch. Oh yeah-- I'm from Iowa too ;-)



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JMS/MN

11-23-2003 12:14:26




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
Easy trencher: one chisel plow shank bolted (single bolt) to your loader bucket or skidloader bucket. Swings freely and centers itself as you BACK UP with it in the ground. Several passes and a little shoveling with a tile spade and your trench is a good foot deep.



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Bishop

11-23-2003 06:51:50




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
I retired from the telephone company 4 years ago, and one of my duties for the last 31 years was buring underground cables. You can rent a DitchWitch for about $40/4 hours, $80/24hrs, all of the telephone companies in the past would deliver buried telephone wire TO the customer at no charge if the customer opened a trench or buried the line themselves. Maybe times have changed, but if they charge you for the wire, bury it yourself with a rented machine.
You can bury a PVC line and use regular telephone cable if you insure the wire will stay perfectly dry, by sealing both ends and place elbows at both locations so rain water cannot over time leak past the seal into the PVC. Due not place cable TV or a power line inside the PVC, or along side the buried telephone wire. Be sure the power line is at least 24 inches away from the phone line. If the power line is close to the telephone line, PVC or not, the telephone line will pickup power induction and you will have a "HUMMM" on your telephone line. NOT just in the new location, the humm will be on all of your wires, and all of your phones.
The buried telephone wire has a sheath that is impervious to the acids in the soil. I have seen hundreds of customers bury regular telephone wire thenselves and usually within 6 months the soil acids has eaten in to the wire and the customer develops a humm from an earth contact or static from corrosion of the wire.
One other thing, Lightning protectors shoud be placed at both ends of a buried line if the line is 50' long or longer. Lightning is searching for a ground contact, so don't let a lightning bolt blow out of the ground the wire you place.
My 2cents

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HJP

11-29-2003 18:37:48




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 Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Bishop, 11-23-2003 06:51:50  
BISHOP, INSTALLED MY UNDERGROUND POWER PER CODE 2 1/2 SCHED 80 PCV 3FT DOWN AT LEAST 24 INCHES ABOVE PVC TO FINAL GRADE, INSTALLED TELE CABLE IN SCHED 80 PVC 18 INCHES ABOVE THE POWER ,THINK I WILL HAVE ANY PROBLEMS?? THE PHONE COMPANY GAVE ME WHAT LOOKED LIKE 6 PAIRS OF WIRES IN A BLACK JACKETED SILICONE FILLED WIRE. HAVE NOT BACK FILLED THE TELE WIRE YET.



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Van

11-23-2003 01:16:50




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
No Iowan, - - - -
You can't borrow my chainsaw



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iowan

11-23-2003 15:47:09




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 Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Van, 11-23-2003 01:16:50  
You probably dont have a chainsaw. I dont know where your coming from, you answer NO to a question that was not asked.



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Van

11-24-2003 05:52:18




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 Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to iowan, 11-23-2003 15:47:09  
No you are right, I have three, also have a shovel!



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Iowan

11-25-2003 16:43:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Van, 11-24-2003 05:52:18  
go to ----



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Van

11-26-2003 22:38:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-25-2003 16:43:19  
I've been to Iowa!



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Just a thought

11-22-2003 22:07:29




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
Does the phone Co price include the wire,interface box and jack?Good underground cable is gonna run ya at least around $80,the box,hardware,jack,ground rod,etc another $15-20, +whatever it costs to trench it.....That$200 is lookin smaller all the time...Justa thought :)

And theres a"chance"that if the idiot phone comp can find something not to spec,they can/will legally demand it brought to specs or disconnected

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Chris-se-ILL

11-22-2003 19:12:07




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
My former brother-in-law owns a propane company. They use trenchers all the time. But one day he came in with this electric chainsaw that was fitted with a special chain. It was like a chainsaw chain but was fitted with oversized "ears" instead of teeth on about every 5th link. It would make a nice little 3/4 inch wide trench (for running wires, not propane lines) about 4 to 6 inches deep in just plain dirt. However, a person really didn't want to get it into ANY rocks! Didn't do well with any rocks at all. Over all though, it worked pretty slick! I have no idea where to get that sorta chain though! Maybe a "Tool Rental" company would have access to such a machine.

I do agree with the others that have posted here. You will wreck the regular chain, bar, and probably clutch.

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Ray,IN

11-22-2003 19:10:23




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
Use a subsoiler and fasten the wire to the bottom behind the point, you can drag the wire to the shop behind the tractor.



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jim

11-22-2003 18:42:35




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
35.00 for chain, 75.00 for bar, 16.00 for drum, 40.00 for clutch, plus the work involved, 200.00 sounds cheep to this ole' farm boy



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FRANK

11-22-2003 18:36:04




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
DID YOU THINK OF USING YOUR TRACTOR BY PUTTING A BAR ON THE THREE POINT HITCH. THAT WILL DO THE JOB



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Nebraska Cowman

11-22-2003 17:45:26




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
When I grew up we had a thing we called a SHOVEL.
Don't know abot you but I just went to my shop with electric wire and it was right across the driveway, dry and hard, what we call Nebraska permafrost.



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JDK

11-22-2003 17:15:21




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
Options:Cordless phone w/base in house.Some are made w/2 handsets and/or 2nd(remote)charging cradle.(V-Tech,Cobra,etc.)

If both bldgs are on same power transformer,there are remote phone jacks which use the electrical wiring to connect the standard phones(Radio Shack? etc)



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Stick

11-22-2003 17:19:01




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 Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to JDK, 11-22-2003 17:15:21  
Anyone ever try those gizmos that use the power wiring between buildings? I had thought about that myself, since my house and all my outbuildings are on the same transformer. They SHOULD work!



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JDK

11-22-2003 22:15:56




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 Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Stick, 11-22-2003 17:19:01  
I've used the intercoms that work the same way,and was quite satisfied with em.Mebbee the store would let you try em and return em if not satisfied.(pre-agreement)



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Steve from Tn

11-22-2003 16:41:16




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
I have been told by my brother that a pressure washer will cut you a nice trench. He has done it; I have not.



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John in MA

11-22-2003 15:40:37




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 Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Iowan, 11-22-2003 15:08:49  
You can use it or get trenching chain, but you'll wreck the bar, chain, likely the sprocket, and maybe the clutch bearing.



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Mac

11-22-2003 15:48:38




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 Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to John in MA, 11-22-2003 15:40:37  
I dont think you can keep the chain on the sprockets. As said before you will ruin about everything moveable on the saw. You can rent some type of trenching tool. Weigh what it will cost to what they will charge to do it for you.



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Bob

11-22-2003 18:50:51




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 Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Mac, 11-22-2003 15:48:38  
I'm forever amazed by what some people can think of to save a buck. I think there's something here about penny wise and pound..... ....



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vince

11-23-2003 07:06:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Bob, 11-22-2003 18:50:51  
? We have phone lines run all over the farm from the old days and have found that some of the low cost phone carriers will not take you due to the OFF PREMISIS EXTENSIONS. Go cordless then when a kid drops a plow you don't have a phone line to fix.



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Alvin n Ms.

11-23-2003 08:27:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to vince, 11-23-2003 07:06:00  
Iowan, make sure its your saw if you do. Every time I have reluctantly loaned out my chain saw, I had to buy a new one. Please don't anyone ask to use my new Husky.



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Mac

11-23-2003 11:02:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: chain saw - telephone line in reply to Alvin n Ms., 11-23-2003 08:27:17  
Alvin: I must loan stuff to the same guy you do???



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