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Jim was in UK

11-17-2003 09:35:56




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Well I'm back in Clovis NM (10 months now) after living in England for five years. We (SWMTD and myself)are planning to put up a shed in her backyard. This is something that I had thought about, but wasn't about to discuss (not like this size anyway)with her. She showed me a garage that some people a few blocks from us put up and asked how something like that would be in the backyard with an entry from the alley? We are looking at a 20x25 metal building. This will be for storage and my workshop (dog house). The plans so far is for a 6 inch concrete floor, 14 ft overhead door (thinking about maybe a 12 ft instead) and a 8 ft roll up door on the side (thinking about a 5 or 6 ft instead) with a regular size (36in) walk-in door. The space that it will go up in makes the decision of a 9 ft tall with 1x12 slope roof. Due to city codes, anything over 10 ft tall will have to be moved in further to the property and there isn't room to do this. Plus the 9 ft / 10 ft overall should suffice. I am going to have it wired for electricity and the pipes installed for water and gas at a later date. It will be insulated with 3 in on the sides, and 6 in in the ceiling (I think that this is what the builder stated). The builder I have discussed this with mentioned putting another heavy wall beams in for hoisting engines if I wanted/needed to and I have thought about doing this but there is an expense and a budget that needs to be somewhat followed. If I were to put the beam in, would lessen the need for a cherry picker/shop crane. If this was going up on the farm (my father has 80 acres NE of Waco TX) that I hope to move back to in the next few years I would be looking at this project a little differently as far as size, but this will be in town, and she has proven (told me she would come to England for a year and didn't) that she isn't up to moving to much and I will most likely be commuting back and forth a lot. Hope to use this for not only storage, but for also working on a few tractors, pickups, implemements etc. for personal use and for (hopefully) a little fun and possibly income. Also have a few home improvement and "Honey Do" woodworking type projects that this would be nice for. She has told me that this is "MY" project everytime I try to discuss it with her. And the only thing I hear from her about it is "when are we getting the shed put up and WHEN are you going to get it started so we can move your stuff out of the storage unit that we are renting!" Have always been a bit of a tightwad and slow to advance when a large amount of money is going to be spent. Looking to have the most for the buck and something close to what I would like to have. Any and all advice, comments, and suggestions would be welcomed and appreciated. I know that there are a lot of you out there that have done or have planned on doing this type addition to your residence.

later days mates,
Jim now in NM again

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thurlow

11-18-2003 06:19:10




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 Re: Backyard Shed in reply to Jim was in UK, 11-17-2003 09:35:56  
Jim; Old fogey's sometimes have trouble keeping up..... .SWMTD ????? ?? Single white mom two daughters????? ??/



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Jim was in UK

11-18-2003 08:02:42




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 Re: Re: Backyard Shed in reply to thurlow, 11-18-2003 06:19:10  
Well I guess that could be a discription of her, but she is Asian. Actually "SWMTD" stands for "She Who Makes The Decisions." Sometimes life is a lot easier if you go along with things rather than voice your opinion.



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Brian

11-18-2003 12:14:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Backyard Shed in reply to Jim was in UK, 11-18-2003 08:02:42  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks!



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george md

11-17-2003 22:39:17




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 Re: Backyard Shed in reply to Jim was in UK, 11-17-2003 09:35:56  
Jim,

What are you going to run in that little building that needs a 6 inch floor ? I do equipment and truck repair ,we run loaded tandem trucks, 977L ,Hein warner C14 B and what ever else comes along on a 4 inch floor and have been doing it for more than 30 years. Also has no rebar and
is not all cracked up.

george



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RJ-AZ

11-17-2003 19:11:05




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 Re: Backyard Shed in reply to Jim was in UK, 11-17-2003 09:35:56  
Welcome back to Clovis, my daughter is enrolled at NMSU in Las Cruces so I burn the road over there quite a bit. Check out metal building supplies from muellerinc.com they have plants all over Texas as well as a store in Albequrque NM. They may have a package you can use. I sure like there service. Forklift delivery to the door. I helped a friend put up his 30x40 and he put a 5" square heavy wall tube upright in the middle. We hung a swinging jib crane off of this and works great. Hinged it so we have about 270 degrees of travel. Use a 2 ton chain hoist on a trolley. Plumbed air, water and power (110&220) on this also.

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rustyfarmall

11-17-2003 10:29:42




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 Re: Backyard Shed in reply to Jim was in UK, 11-17-2003 09:35:56  
Sounds like you have some good ideas already, so I'll just offer a few more. I like the idea of 6 inch concrete floor, I wouldn't want any thing less, but if you are going to be putting in water and gas at a later date, you need to plan for that now so you don't end up jack-hammering your floor at a later date, the same goes for the electricity, also, 200 amp service will not cost much more than 100 amp, and will give ample room for expansion.
Also, unless you have some equipment already which requires a 12 or 14 ft. door, I would go with a 10 ft. This will prevent your friends from wanting to use your shop to work on there big equipment, if it won't fit through the door, they can't bring it in.
Another thought, the overhead hoist would be usefull in some instances, but not nearly as versatile as a good cherrypicker.

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