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Emglo compressor qquestion

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SteveB

11-11-2003 18:22:57




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I have an Emglo 80gal 2 stage i picked up from a friend. I wired her to a 30A 220 breaker. Things have been working good until the other day. The compressor builds up to about 180+ PSI and all the sudden the relief valve opens, scared the heck out of me. the motor keeps pumping until I shut it down. How do I check things out to make sure it is safe? Also the temp is dropping and I tripped the breaker starting things up this morning. Should I use a thinner oil so it can get turning easily in the cold???

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Roger

11-12-2003 20:23:30




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 Re: Emglo compressor qquestion in reply to SteveB, 11-11-2003 18:22:57  
You could change to synthetic. Better idea would be to put the compressor someplace it doesn't go below frezzing, but that ship has sailed. Freezing temps prevent the condensate from draining from the tank. Your pressure switch contacts have probably welded shut from the amp draw during motor starts. You need a magnetic motor starter, or a very heavy duty pressure switch. Penn used to make some very good 3-phase pressure switches. Furnas makes one good for 28 amps, but I am not sure even that would last long on your machine. Most of the bigger Emglos use Kellogg pumps, btw.

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Roger

11-13-2003 16:26:04




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 Re: Re: Emglo compressor qquestion in reply to Roger, 11-12-2003 20:23:30  
Scratch the pressure switch idea. The 3 phase one we were using was on 575V, so the amp draw was much lower than your 220V, 1-phase setup. You need a starter.



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steve b

11-14-2003 15:11:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Emglo compressor qquestion in reply to Roger, 11-13-2003 16:26:04  
What do you mean by starter? Where would I get one what should I ask for??? Thanks Steve



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Roger

11-14-2003 23:32:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Emglo compressor qquestion in reply to steve b, 11-14-2003 15:11:52  
A magnetic motor starter is a heavy-duty switch. It has large contacts and is pulled shut very quickly by a magnetic coil, which reduces arcing when making and breaking the connection. These features allow it to withstand the high current loads common when starting motors. They also have overload protection built into them, usually in the form of "heaters" which are designed to trip out the switch when current draw becomes excessive (overloaded motor). The main leads come into the top of the starter, in your case, 220V. A lead from one of the mains is taken off and run through the pressure switch. It then comes back through the starter overloads, and into the coil which pulls the switch shut. When the pressure switch closes, current is allowed to flow from one of the main leads, through the pressure switch, and back to the starter, which then energizes the coil in the starter and pulls the connections shut. On most single phase 220V starters, the coil is 110V, hence, you use only one lead from one of the mains to run the coil. On larger starters running, say, 575V, 3phase, two leads are taken from two mains and run through a control voltage transformer, which knocks it down to 110V, which is then used to run the coil. You can get starters that have full voltage coils, however it is more common to use 110V, as this voltage is used to also run things like timers, safety shutdown switches, hour meters and the like. Your pressure switch can easily handle the current load required to operate the starter coil, but the small contacts in the pressure switch are nowhere near capable of handling the inrush current of a compressor motor. Any electrical supply shop should sell starters.

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Hobo,NC

11-12-2003 06:02:15




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 Re: Emglo compressor qquestion in reply to SteveB, 11-11-2003 18:22:57  
You need to check the pressure switch. its adjustabl. I run 175 psi on mine. 180 psi is were the relief pops off. The instructions should be under the cover for the adj. I use a 50 amp breaker. 3 and 5 horse motor pull about 23 amps. also use a srarter with heat strips for protection. mine came with a relay to start the compressior. The relay keeps the pressior switch from carring the load. Removed the relay and use a motor starter. i run 30wt oil year round.

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