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glenshoe

10-27-2003 10:48:53




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My parents just built a new home and the brick mason put two nice new brick gate posts on their driveway. Mom would like a wrought iron gate (actually double gates) but when pricing them they were outrageous. I found several websites where I could buy pre-punched channel to use for railings with precisely measured holes for pickets to go through. With this in mind, I figured I could build them the gates with square steel tubing, cast steel spears (for the tops of the pickets - readily available) using my cutoff saw, wire feed welder, and angle grinder. Any thoughts on this? Drawbacks? problems with twisting or distortion based on changes in temp.?

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yooper

11-01-2003 20:14:44




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
We make ornamental iron railings and plant stands, there are a lot of neat items you can purchase to make your gate real special; finials, onions and the like, one thing I would suggest if you make your own gate is to mount it with homemade plastic bushings in the hinges so it won't squeek when it is opened. If you need help locating parts, I know of a place in Iron Mountain MI that has top rail and can get other parts. we use a compact bender from shop outfitters ??(SHOPOUTFITTERS.COM)

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uglyoldfatman

10-30-2003 15:45:07




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
glenshoe;

Home Depot has a remote double gate opener for about $400.00.

UG!



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glenshoe

10-29-2003 03:41:06




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
Thanks, guys. You've given me some good tips, especially the one from rhudson on the book. I've compiled a list of materials and done some comparison shopping and it works out to about $350 for the supplies compared to about $2000 for a custom gate (local prices).



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KURT (mi)

10-28-2003 15:39:01




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
My neighbor put in a large gate 14' long, motorized, with heavy concreted posts. This gate is 2" sq. tubing, and very heavy. He made it himself, very nice, the motorized portion cost him well over $1000. the steel for the gate was cheap in comparison.



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rhudson

10-27-2003 19:50:16




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
how are your fabrication skills? have you made a list of materials for a gate. lotts of linear feet in those. anyway, carefull in distrubution of your welds or the gate will twist during the welding. you will have to strengthen the gate so that it can hold its own weight without sagging. this usually consist of sometype of boxing at about mid height( a double horizontal run of metal barstock with very high vertical strength. some use a diagonal cable with turnbuckel, but that looks tacky. the weld-on finals are nice, but again it adds up to big bucks. i've got a book around here somewhere with some tips, maybe at the office, i'll check for it tomarrow. do it carefully and with much thought and they will be the stuff of which your grandkids will tell stories of.

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rhud got book

10-27-2003 19:55:06




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 Re: Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to rhudson, 10-27-2003 19:50:16  
found the book: Metal Fabrication, A Practical Guide by Robert L O'Con and Richard H. Carr. Prentice-Hall, Inc. isbn 0-13-577685-6.



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RJ-Az

10-27-2003 17:56:23




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
Gopher it. Thats what those welding machines are made for. There is a lot of specialty fittings available for ornamental iron. You didn't mention a scroll bender? Thats another tool I gotta have. Completed a solar clothes dryer for my wife this past weekend. After I got a wire welder, chop saw and angle grinder I had to prove that I could do more than work on my sand rail and 4X4 PU with em.



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ATW/WA

10-28-2003 11:58:30




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 Re: Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to RJ-Az, 10-27-2003 17:56:23  
ROFLMAO...

Solar clothes dryer, Yes that will redeem you, For all the late night shop hours. Convenient for her too. ATW/WA



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john

10-27-2003 16:54:46




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
Glen

try the hobart welding forum

Link

lots of gate builders there... try the search function.

john



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Archie

10-27-2003 14:55:20




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 Re: OT - DIY iron gate in reply to glenshoe, 10-27-2003 10:48:53  
Hi Glenshoe. I made some gates out of the stock you are talking of. They turned out really good. I didn't take a lot of patience with them. No one sees them but me. Your parents would be really proud of some you made. Take your time they will work. Good luck. Archie



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