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Bob

10-21-2003 14:36:45




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I have just insulated a 16 by 27 foot section for a shop. I want to heat it with propane as last winter the off-peak electric was off most of the winter. I have been being pushed in the direction of a ReddyHeater NO VENT REQUIRED. I can get it with or without a fan but I may put a ceiling fan in anyway which should take care of it. Suggestions/Idea's or comments??




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Bob

10-26-2003 06:09:48




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
Thanks for the comments. I have almost decided. The Modine is first for room heat, but it was pointed out that if I add ( more than double) on to the shop I will need more. So I am looking at a gas furnace which I can duct to the new area. Great site and great responses. Bob



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Mike

10-24-2003 18:51:35




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
I installed a Hot Dawg heater made by Modine.It is made specifially for residential garages,workshops and small commercial bldgs.
It has a power vent,hot surface ignition(no standing pilot) and it was reasonable(about $600 with the propane conversion kit).These heaters are available in 30m,45m and 60m btu(and there may be some I forgot). I made a panel with two thermostats,one set at 55 and the other set at 70 with a switch in between and now all I do is flip a switch to change heat settings.
I used a 35m Reddy heater for about 6yrs and it worked ok but now when I go to the shop it's already warm and I dont have to lug 100 lb propane tanks around.

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Mike.

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Rick

10-24-2003 17:32:29




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
I have used all the heaters previous mentioned and have sincec went with radiant tube heaters. Would never go back to anything else. They have low clearance models also. have one in office part with eight foot ceiling and love it. The larger units are in 54x75x 15ft part.



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Rod

10-22-2003 09:16:06




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
get a L.B.White heater, they are great, different size btu's, quiet and have their own thermostat and some even have varable btu's, best part is their not that high priced. I have one 125000 btu that heats a 40 x 40 12high shop on less than 300 gal. propane in Nebr for the winter. Hung it six foot high and set temp at 60 degree, and its on 24-7, I think its cheaper to maintain a constant heat, also put in 2 ceiling fans to help that effect, alot of heat up by the ceiling.

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Another Bob

10-21-2003 21:30:50




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
Get a vented heater and mount it so all flame sources are more than 30" above the floor (for safety, in case they are ever any flammable hydrocarbon vapors present). (Most hydrocarbon vapors that would be found in a shop are heavier than air, and hug the floor).

Get a vented heater because there is really no good reason to breath ANY carbon monoxide while you're having fun in your shop! Years ago, I used unvented space heaters in my shop, and got gassed once, and to this day I get a sick headache almost immediately upon entering an area with an unvented heater, even if the building is not closed up tight.

The other reason to go vented is that for every gallon of fuel burned, a large amount of water vapor is given off, and in most cases, there is no good reason to have excessive humidity in a shop area.

A good, vented heater will cost more, but, in the long run, is better for you, your shop, and your tools than an unvented one.

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ShepFL

10-21-2003 19:40:24




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
Why not simplify and use one of those portable kerosene heaters? I have 2 that I use to knock the chill of the house in the winter. Don't burn much fuel and can be stored out of the way.

Another consideration - If winters are long in your area go to your local gas company and ask them if they have any trade ins or last yrs. model 42" propane fireplaces (vented). You get the benefit of propane and it can be wired to turn on with the flick of a switch. New they run around $800-1200 but used you can pick up pretty reasonable. Then you would have some permanent propane heat. I would suggest putting a bigger fan on it though as I have found the typical fans lacking.

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Bishop

10-21-2003 17:41:03




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
I use a 35,000 propane Reddy Heater. I bought it five years ago, best heater you can buy. No fumes, no smell, instant blast of super heated air.

I think some versions have a temp control or fuel saver control. I wish I could run my Reddy propane at a lower heat range, it would save gas and heat be lower, but if this is all there is, it's GREAT!



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ScottT

10-22-2003 10:32:23




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 Re: Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bishop, 10-21-2003 17:41:03  
You can get an external thermostat, I use one on my 100K kerosene heater.

Scott



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Andy

10-21-2003 17:29:29




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
I would put a vented unit it. Get a good carbon monoxide detector if you use unvented. Remember you can's see or smell CO.



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Mac

10-21-2003 15:49:23




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
initial investment is a little costly, but you might consider an overhead gas htr with fan and thermo. I bought a kero reddy heater, does a good job, but wish I had gotten a propane job with a fan.



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KURT (mi)

10-21-2003 15:36:22




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
I think a reddy heater is that kerosene heater, right? I have one and I used it all the time at my old house with my old garage workshop, was 10X24 and was insulated, worked great in the dead of winter. I only had to crack the window open about 2" and I didnt smell any fumes.



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PJW

10-21-2003 15:14:35




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 Re: Shop Heat question in reply to Bob, 10-21-2003 14:36:45  
That is how I heat my 800 sq.ft. shop. The down side is there is some noise and when the tank gets low the fumes will burn your eyes. I am considering a wood stove buy can�t figure out where I will get space. Don�t want to eliminate any of my machinery



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RB/CT

10-21-2003 16:33:06




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 Re: Re: Shop Heat question in reply to PJW, 10-21-2003 15:14:35  
Have used a reddy heater in my 24 x24 garage, it was a 65k btu got it too hot after a while, and made a lot of noise. Now I use a 23000 btu kerosun heater, which makes no noise is highly efficient, and has no maintainance. If you work in a shop, it seems that you never want it too hot.



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