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Can't get it Up!

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Scott

10-16-2003 08:31:54




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Good mornin� folks,

I picked up a 12,000 lb capacity Gooseneck trailer yesterday for hauling my N and implements, the Skidsteer and my Mother-In-Law to her Weight Watcher meetings. Everything seems to be in good shape, but I need to replace the jack on the front of the trailer.

After researching on the web, it seems like a �Drop Leg� jack is the way to go, but I need some expert advice on which one to use.

Questions-

1) Trailer capacity is 12,000lbs. Should I get a 12m, 10m or 5m capacity jack? I figger 12m would be best, but the cost is relative in this situation.

2) Drop Legs come in both sprung and un-sprung models. Is the extra $20.00 for the sprung model worth it?

3) The trailer frame is steel. Is weld-on the best way to go, or is �bolt on� a better alternative? We like stout around here.

4) Top crank or side crank? I�m sure my arm is going to get tired either way.

5) Ground clearance and lift height are a big concern. I don�t want to drag the jack in the dirt in the �up� position, but also need to lift high enough to accommodate 3 different truck bed heights.

6) I figger I�ll be leaving the trailer fully loaded at times, and some jacks list �12000lb static and 5000lb operational". Does this mean it�ll be stable at 10m, but only lift 5m? I plan to load and unload at times when the trailer isn�t attached to the truck.

Thanks for the help! I gotta go, I�ve got orders to run to Krispy Kreme�..

Scott

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tn terry t

10-18-2003 19:22:51




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 Re: Can't get it Up! in reply to Scott, 10-16-2003 08:31:54  
about 15 yrs ago where i work we built a fifth wheel trailer to use behind a one ton or an freightliner we used a single speed landing gear off an overthe road trailer mounted up front with a fifth wheel pin welded to the bottom. this way you could adjust the "neck" height. used another on the center as the jack. i used it today!never ever been an repair made on this set up



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Fred Kobs

10-16-2003 21:27:57




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 Re: Can't get it Up! in reply to Scott, 10-16-2003 08:31:54  
Personal preferance here, but I prefer a single dolley leg off of a semi trailer. They have lots of travel and crank fairly effortlessly under heavy load. A single leg can be mounted to pivot up with some ingenuity, where 1 on each corner eliminates twist on the frame, especially if you set it down loaded for a period of time. If I remember right, a pair, with cross shaft is under $200. Sometimes trailer repair shops have a used single laying around that can be had cheap also. $200 sounds like a lot 'till your cranking down with 1 hand quickly in 0deg. weather. Just my pennys worth. Fred

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rustyfarmall

10-16-2003 11:05:51




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 Re: Can't get it Up! in reply to Scott, 10-16-2003 08:31:54  
You want a spring loaded drop leg jack, preferably a side crank,(too many things in the way on a gooseneck for a top crank), but you are making one mistake, that trailer needs to be adjusted in the hitch so that it will ride level when hooked to your truck, pulls and rides much better that way, so pulling this trailer with 3 different trucks, of differing bed heights, is not a good idea.



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Joel Harman

10-17-2003 09:57:24




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 Re: Re: Can't get it Up! in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-16-2003 11:05:51  
Some trailers are setup so one can adjust the length of the leg that sits on the ball on the truck.

A guy that builds 5th wheel trailers says he likes to see nose up just a hair.

I have one trailer with landing gear off a semi trailer & one with a spring loaded landing gear. Only problem with spring loaded is I still hear well & it is noisy when I raise it.



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