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Slope of concrete floor in pole barn.

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Bob G

10-03-2003 17:39:53




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I am going to pour concrete in part of my pole barn to use as a shop. Can someone tell me what slope I should have on the floor to get good drain to the doors.

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Bob




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Mac

10-05-2003 11:10:39




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 Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Bob G, 10-03-2003 17:39:53  
Hal has a good method, recently installed such in a 28X40 garage. Easy before you pour concrete. We use a screen over the drain (PVC) made for the application and works good. Draining to door can be a real dis-advantage in cold freezing weather.



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Hal/WA

10-04-2003 19:59:40




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 Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Bob G, 10-03-2003 17:39:53  
One of the things I like best about my garage is the central floor drain with a cleanable sump. The sump catches most of the dirt and relatively clean water goes to the French drain system. The floor has a slight slope from all directions toward the center, so all water runs to the sump. I can wash vehicles inside in the winter without problems.

Where I live we often have freezing conditions for several months a year. A friend of mine sloped his garage so that water would run out under the overhead door, which works OK in the summertime. But in the winter, he has had problems with the door gasket freezing down to the floor and being torn off when the electric opener lifts the door.

It only takes a little more work to do the central drain. I really think it is worth it.

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Tom R

10-05-2003 04:39:42




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 Re: Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Hal/WA, 10-04-2003 19:59:40  
I second the comments made by Hal/WA.

I like to use either a gutter type of drain poured as part of the floor, and then outfitted with a stand pipe to provide a sump for grease and dirt or 12' x 12"collection boxes (either way) connected with a french drain system.

How much slope depends on what kind of drainage you want. Remember that sanitary drains are usually pitched at �"/ft. so if you want that kind of fast run off for vast quantities of water then go with �"/ft but you will have to deal with a slope that makes it hard to set equipment on or to use a creeper on, plus every thing you drop on the floor will roll away from you. If you want good drainage with less slope try 1/16"/ft pitch this will give fair drainage with out the slope problems, if you use less than 1/16" per foot slope you will need to assist the drainage with a broom or squeegee. The last shop I built was 30' x 50' with two drain that were set up so that each drain served a 30' x 25' section of the shop with the collection boxes in the center of the section and 1/16"/foot slope.

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ShepFL

10-05-2003 17:02:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Tom R, 10-05-2003 04:39:42  
I second Tom's comments and third to Hal.

HOWEVER, when laying your plumbing be sure to dig an adequate trench. I did not dig mine deep enough so my drain does not work that well. The plumbing "floated" up during the pour which I had not counted on. Still works but not as good as expected and I encountered a crack the lenght of the run where the plumbing is under the slab.
FWIW



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happy

10-04-2003 05:23:54




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 Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Bob G, 10-03-2003 17:39:53  
To the best of my knowledge, concrete hold moisture which will cause the wood it contacts to rot over time, contrator supplies store should carry sometype of barrier. it might be worth it if you are going to be there a while. Also avoid pouring in the colder part of winter. The concrete sets up fast and sometime they dont have enough time to get it smooth. Good luck



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T_Bone

10-04-2003 14:24:14




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 Re: Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to happy, 10-04-2003 05:23:54  
Hi Happy,

Paint the poles with tar and it'll solve that problem.

T_Bone



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RJ-AZ

10-03-2003 18:13:44




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 Re: Slope of concrete floor in pole barn. in reply to Bob G, 10-03-2003 17:39:53  
MIne is 20' deep and I sloped it 1" front to back and it hoses out real well. I use a good floor soap a hose, stiff bristle broom and a squegee.



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