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Lincoln sp125plus mig welder

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walt

06-21-2000 21:45:19




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Anyone own one of these, and if so. How does it perform? Are you satisfied with the performance?




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Walt(question for Steve)

06-23-2000 11:04:31




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 Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to walt, 06-21-2000 21:45:19  
You seem to be the welder guru here. When welder specs talk about capacity to weld, ie. 3/8 in one pass. Does that mean you can't weld thicker metals, or just that the penetration is not so good? Can you do multiple passes and still have a decent weld?



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Steve U.S. Alloys

06-25-2000 08:19:56




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 Re: Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to Walt(question for Steve), 06-23-2000 11:04:31  
Hi Walt,
I'm not sure I can answer your question w/o a little more info.

A statement made by a manufacturer like "weld up to 3/8" in one pass" is pretty vague.

I would judge a machines capability based on highest possible output in amperage and also by duty cycle. In wire fed welders, 130 amps will usually be enough to join 3/8" material. You can do it in one pass or more. Joining thicker material than that is not advised. Not even on multiple passes. The mass of the parent material draws too much energy from the arc, and heat generated is not sufficient enough to overcome and produce a good weld bead.

I would assume that when you see an ad that says "Up to 3/8" in one pass" that probably means you're at maximum output. If someone at that place of business can't answer your welding questions to your satisfaction, don't buy a welder there. There will be other questions that come up and it's hard to ask them from someone who didn't get your business but probably deserved it based on service.

If I haven't answered your question to your satisfaction, please e-mail me in regard to that and I will take another stab at it.
steve

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gary

06-22-2000 07:06:14




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 Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to walt, 06-21-2000 21:45:19  
I bought one about a year ago. Mine is set up with fluxcore wire. I'm not too happy with mine. It does't seem to have the power to weld thicker material and it's difficult to set it right to weld lighter material. I think it would probably do better if it was set up with shielding gas. Next time I'll buy the 220 volt model.



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Steve U.S. Alloys

06-22-2000 14:39:35




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 Re: Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to gary, 06-22-2000 07:06:14  
Hello Gary,
I'd like to try to help you out. That little machine should weld carbon steel up to 3/8" w/o much problem. The open arc wire actually gives it a boost in the penetration department.

You might want to be sure the polarity is set to DC-. Another important factor is the stick out. I don't know why some of these manufacturers don't provide more info on parameters for their product. The stick out for your wire is probably about 1/4" to 3/8". Try the shorter length first and increase your arc length slowly. As you do this, listen carefully to the sound to determine the point at which the spatter increases. When you find that point, shorten the arc length until you obtain the smoothest arc. That's your proper stick out. Wire fed machines are volt sensitive. The longer the arc length, the higher the voltage. The higher the voltage, the more spatter and the less penetration you get.

You also need to control moisture in the electrode. Open arc continous electrodes are just as susceptible to moisture pick-up as covered electrodes.

Another consideration is line loss if you are using an extension cord. If the fan speed pulls down when you strike the arc, that is indicative of line loss.

Finally, direction of travel is a factor. Wire welders penetrate when pushed. Stick welders penetrate when pulled. That's why you burn thru on thin sections when dragging a SMAW electrode. Pushing eliminates most of it.
HTH
Steve

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Gary

06-22-2000 16:50:22




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 Re: Re: Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 06-22-2000 14:39:35  
Steve, Thank you a lot for the welding advice. I've seen your posts at this site before and you always give very accurate info. I must admit most of my welding is stick using a Miller Bobcat on pipe corrals, cattle guards, gates and etc. I am certainly going to give your tips a try.



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Steve U.S. Alloys

06-23-2000 05:30:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: lincoln sp125plus mig welder in reply to Gary, 06-22-2000 16:50:22  
Hi Gary,
I just thought of another obvious possibility. Your welder could be set up with .030 wire. Changing to .035 would make a great deal of difference if that is in fact the case.

You mentioned your Bobcat. If the wire welder starts to run the way you like, you can use it for a portable machine by running it off the Bobcat. You have power to spare. 5000 watts of auxilliary power will run a 125 amp machine at full power.
Steve

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