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OT - Rebuild or replace with after market

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ShepFL

10-01-2003 09:37:05




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3spd auto trans with OD on my back up tractor hauler. It is wife's truck. It is a 1993 GMC Yukon 4x4 with 274,000+ miles. Been a good truck.

Last night I think the tranny gave up the ghost. Was cruising along about 70MPH when noticed tach started to climb. Lost OD, Drive and R is slipping bad. Plenty of fluid. Rig currently only moves in 2nd and 3rd.

Never used the aftermarket trans from auto stores, normally just have original rebuilt. Just wondering what others have experienced or suggest.

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Joe

10-02-2003 13:34:08




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
What kind of service do you guys get from an automitic trasmission? I have a GMC half ton 4x4 with 125,000 miles. What can I expect?



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ShepFL

10-03-2003 09:01:30




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 Re: Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to Joe, 10-02-2003 13:34:08  
I can't speak for others but my experience has been as follows:

1965 Chevy C10 (3 on the tree)- rebuild at 300k
1978 GMC K20 Scottsdale (3 spd auto trans) - rebuild at 200k
1982 Chevy K20 (4 spd manual) - never rebuilt but have since sold the short bed truck to buy wife Firebird 1985 Firebird - (3 spd auto w/ OD) rebuild at 150k
1990 Chevy K3500 - (3 spd auto) 320k and still going strong (main tractor hauler)
1993 GMC Yukon - (3 spd auto / OD) rebuild at 275k

My experience is that the trannny w/ OD tends to fail earlier. I suspect it is due to the internal components needed for the OD gearing. I change my fluid and filters approx. every 50k miles.

I tend to keep my rigs till the wheels fall off then go out and buy a 1-2 yr. old truck as a replacement.

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Mark Kw

10-02-2003 04:48:34




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
OEM OEM OEM OEM OEM OEM OEM!!!!!

Went through this more than once and more than I care to admit on my own vehicles. Stay with OEM drive train parts, you'll have better service and likely save money too. Also, don't be so quick to buy a re-man or re-built, check the pricing on new first and then compare warranty too. I just got a price from Jasper on a GM 6.5 NA diesel re-man ... over $6000 plus shipping and does not come with pump, injectors or anything, just the basic block components. Found them on-line, new GM OEM complete, hook up the starter and fuel and go delivered to the door for $6050.00 with 1 year total replacement and 3 years parts replacement included.

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KURT (mi)

10-02-2003 02:30:37




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
I would get a rebuilt trans. 274K miles, do you run the engine with synthetic oil or straight petroleum oil.



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ShepFL

10-02-2003 06:26:45




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 Re: Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to KURT (mi), 10-02-2003 02:30:37  
I run Castrol GTX 10-30. I change regularly but not as often as recommended by the auto industry.

I changed to Castol several yrs. ago when I was a younger man. I used to run a Triumph Spitfire 1500 that was very finicky. I tried Castrol and found it to be very durable and good product. Continued using it ever since in all my rigs.

Just found out this yr. that they also offer an Ag line. I plan on trying next yr. on my tractors and backhoe based on my experience with my passenger rigs.

(*No, I do not work for them. IMHO it is just an excellent product that have given me good service)

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Bob

10-01-2003 20:11:28




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
I think you'll find that if you buy a GM rebuilt it is probably rebuilt by the people who rebuild them for Ford or Midas or any other transmission shop. Most manfactures don't rebuild anything but it is all done through contracts with smaller shops. A transmission removed from your vehicle will be sent to a rebuilder somewhere that has an agreement with GM or the dealer. You may or may not get back the same transmission but probably not...Good luck..

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Vern-MI

10-02-2003 00:26:02




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 Re: Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to Bob, 10-01-2003 20:11:28  
I think Fred Jones out of Tulsa rebuilds all of the Ford transmissions.



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Bob

10-01-2003 21:10:20




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 Re: Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to Bob, 10-01-2003 20:11:28  
The GM rebuilts to which I was refering come through the GM parts system. You have the dealer order in the rebuilt, and then turn in your old one for core. You do not have to wait while yours is sent away to be rebuilt. The last time I checked they had quite a good warrantee, and they are supposed to be updated with all the latest improvements that have come along since the original build date of the vehicle.

We have used quite a number of them, and yes, one did fail, and was replaced at the dealer we bought it from with no charge for parts or labor. (We had bought it and installed it in our shop for a customer).

I am in no way saying that this is the only way to go. I am saying we have had good luck with the GM's, and some customers find comfort in the fact if they have trouble down the road, during the warrantee period, help is available at any GM dealer, providing they have the required paperwork available for the GM dealer.

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John in MD

10-01-2003 17:09:36




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
I like the GM rebuilt. Just had one put in my truck last year by a shop other than the dealer. The dealer droped the rebuilt one off and picked up the core no charge, got a good price on the rebuild trans.



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ret

10-01-2003 14:12:23




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
Had ford rebuild put in my Sable a few years ago It went out just before the guarantee. The second one blew a seal after the warrenty period, one year or 12,000 miles. Warrenty runs only to extent of first one, about 6,000 on that one. Had a Jasper installed, maybe there are others better, but it has a 75,000 or 7 year warrenty. Never go back to Ford again for anything



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Robert in W. Mi

10-02-2003 20:25:51




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 Re: Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ret, 10-01-2003 14:12:23  
I don't think anyone has as good as warr. as Jasper. Hard to beat that 3yrs-75,000 miles warr.!! Jasper is nation wide too, so if needed you can get it warr. at any Jasper dealer anywhere in the U.S..

My friend sells and installs Jasper engines and trannys, and he is very happy with them. He doesn't care to install any other brand these days!!

Shep, with that many miles on it, is it still worth putting a $1,500.00 tranny in??? "Maybe" buy a good used "like" vechile, and have one for parts???

Robert

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Mac

10-01-2003 10:27:34




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
Shep: I am sort of partial to GM rebuilts. Think you would be much better off to go that way.
Dont go much for any type of after market stuff.



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Bob

10-01-2003 09:56:36




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 Re: OT - Rebuild or replace with after market in reply to ShepFL, 10-01-2003 09:37:05  
Check with several GM dealers for genuine GM rebuilts. I have seen the prices vary between dealers, and with little luck, and a little dickering, sometimes you can pick up a rebuilt at the dealers for a reasonable price, near that of a no-name rebuilt. With the GM tranny, even if you install it yourself, or have an independant shop do it, with the proper documentation, you should have nationwide warrantee at GM dealers.

Email me for a typical price, if interested.

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