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Hang canoe from pole barn truss?

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P Wog in Midwes

09-28-2003 16:49:00




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Hope not off topic but am short of room in shop and would like to hang my 125 lb canoe from the roof truss in a newer 42 ft wide Morton Bldg, Question is--can/should I?
I'd like to hang it at the side near the lower 2 by 8? SYP tie that goes from one side of barn to the other. Would not like to drop on tractor or do something with truss I am not supposed to. I recall they have great strength as engineered but not so when people like me alter things. Can I do this?

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David - OR

09-29-2003 07:40:23




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 Re: Hang canoe from pole barn truss? in reply to P Wog in Midwest, 09-28-2003 16:49:00  
The bottom chord of a truss is typically designed as a tension tie. Note the several splices along its length. It is usually not intended to support weights bearing downward on the bottom chord directly -- the primary function of the truss is to support loads on top of the roof, not point loads on individual members.

That said, many designs include a budget for an incidental ceiling load -- say 5 to 10 pounds per square foot. This is especially true if the trusses were spaced 2 feet or less on center. And a truss design that could not handle a workman stepping from chord to chord would probably not be a realistic one, even if it could support the theoretical roof load.

If the building uses 8 foot spacing of "king" trusses, and purlins for the roof support, then the "ceiling" statement wouldn't apply -- but then again the members are so beefy in that case that a 150 pound incidental load would likely fall within the design safety factor.

Hanging the canoe near the wall is a fairly safe place. This will put much less bending moment on the bottom chord of the truss than hanging it from the center of the truss.

Ideally, your hangers should rest on TOP of the truss chord. Remember that wood has NO allowable design value for tension across the grain. So drilling holes through the side or bottom of the truss chord not only reduces its cross section (and thus its ability to act as a tension tie), but the hanging weight will load the wood in a direction that tends to split it.

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ScottT

09-28-2003 18:30:32




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 Re: Hang canoe from pole barn truss? in reply to P Wog in Midwest, 09-28-2003 16:49:00  
You will have no problem hanging a canoe from your trusses, I have an 80 lb and 55 lb canoe hanging from the trusses in my garage, they're only 2x4's.

Scott



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Kevin

09-28-2003 17:42:07




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 Re: Hang canoe from pole barn truss? in reply to P Wog in Midwest, 09-28-2003 16:49:00  
I like to put a board between two trusses to spread the weight out. I have stored hundreds of pounds in trusses this way. They even support me and I'm 185! Just don't go more than 50-100 lbs per truss and you'll be fine.



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wdTom

09-28-2003 17:21:48




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 Re: Hang canoe from pole barn truss? in reply to P Wog in Midwest, 09-28-2003 16:49:00  
I don't think the weight of a canoe spread out over 2 or 3 trusses would matter much. I like to hang such things from at least three points (say each end and middle) , one failing the other two would hold it up. I wouldn't start pulling engines from the trusses, but a canoe isn't much.



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jim

09-28-2003 18:41:17




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 Re: Re: Hang canoe from pole barn truss? in reply to wdTom, 09-28-2003 17:21:48  
A neighbour of mine has the main body of two light airplanes hanging from his trusses , less the wings and motors.



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