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chris smith

09-20-2003 12:12:16




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Found me an old black and decker drill. It is all metal, 5.? amps, 450 rpms, d or end type handle. Works good and looks to be a pretty torqy drill, says heavy duty 0n the tag. Anyone have expierence with these? DO they have good torque?? Are they a good drill? or anything else you could add....

Thanks Chris




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Rauville

09-22-2003 05:36:37




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
One thing you don't want to do is to try to use one of these to drill a hole in a vehicle frame while laying on your back on a creeper. What a ride!



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Cliff Neubauer

09-21-2003 10:59:17




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
We've got a couple of them around the farm and like the other posters said they are much stronger than the person holding them so be careful. The switch on ours will also stick from time to time. With cordless drills and a drill press ours don't get used too much but they sure are nice to have around.



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RJ-AZ

09-21-2003 06:31:59




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
I guess we are showing our age when we say "my dad had one" But he had one still has it and yes it will get you if you ain't ready. We have drilled up to 1" with step down S&D bits. There was a post in the shop about 4' from the vise and it was my job to run the oil can and hold a cheater extension on the pipe handle to let the post take the torque and dad would run the trigger and hold the "D" handle.What the hey it worked.

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Mac

09-21-2003 06:10:02




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
Years ago we used to use this type drill to clean boiler tubes with, guy had it on his shoulder, as he walked it in and out of tubes, it hung up and side handle/pipe got his jaw, and now you know the rest of the story.



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Hal/WA

09-21-2003 00:22:22




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
My Dad had one of those old all-metal 1/2" drills when I was growing up. And like others mentioned, the switch can stick on. When I was about 16, I was trying to drill a 1/2" hole in a piece of metal that I had in the bench vise. I had drilled a smaller pilot hole successfully with my 3/8" variable speed drill, but had to use Dad's big drill for the 1/2" bit. The big drill had a D handle, a grip handle with the switch on one side and also a steel pipe handle on the other side. When I plugged in the big drill, it started turning. I tried to fiddle with the switch, but could not get it to release. But since I needed to get that hole drilled and I thought I could control the drill with both handles, I set the bit down on the pilot hole. All was well until about half way through the piece of metal, but then the bit stuck. I had been anticipating this possibility and tried to lift it up, but the power of the machine tore it out of my hands. The pipe handle wacked my arm pretty good and actually knocked me down. While I was picking myself up, the cord wrapped around and around the drill bit and finally pulled the plug out of the wall socket.

After that we only used the big drill for mixing paint. It mostly sat in the corner of the shop unused until my parents sold the place. I emptied all the old stuff from the shop and along with it, got the old big drill.

Later I needed a very powerful drill and decided to see if I could fix Dad's old "widowmaker". I took it apart and took the switch to a large tool store in Spokane. They told me that the switch had been discontinued many years ago, but showed me a similar switch for a completely different brand of tool (I think it was for a power saw). The switch cost about $15, and I had to file the housing a bunch for it to fit and never stick on anymore.

But for that $15 and some effort, I now have a VERY STRONG drill that has been totally reliable. And it was my Dad's drill. I also added a heavy duty 3 wire cord and carefully grounded the housing. I only use this drill with a GFI, since the metal housing could shock me if there was a malfunction.

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wdTom

09-20-2003 19:41:43




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
If you have a helper around youcan have them help you hold the drill or have them ready to yank the plug out if it binds up on you. Sometimes when a drill binds you can't let go of the trigger as you are too busy holding onto the drill with that finger and hand. I know it sounds weird, but it is like you are holding on so tight you can't release even one finger without it getting away.



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TimV

09-20-2003 17:19:27




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
Chris: These are an old workhorse--I have one myself, similarly picked up at a yard sale (for $5.00) and it's seen a lot of use. Rustyfarmall isn't kidding, however--they will wrap you up in a pretzel faster than you can say "OUCH!" Mine had a sticky trigger when I got it, and that only added to the problem. I got it working correctly with a bit of cleaning and lubing. They're an excellent tool for things like putting in lag screws.

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rustyfarmall

09-20-2003 15:21:26




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 Re: yard sale find in reply to chris smith, 09-20-2003 12:12:16  
If it's what I think it is, you've found yourself a good drill, a word of caution though, if the drill bit happens to catch while you are boring a hole, the torque will jerk that thing right out of your hands, and could do some damage to you. Hang on to it very tight.



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Bob

09-20-2003 22:27:59




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 Re: Re: yard sale find in reply to rustyfarmall, 09-20-2003 15:21:26  
And make sure it has a functioning 3-prong grounding cord. (Don't ask me how I know this!)



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