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09-18-2003 12:05:33

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In the lower post on the gas vs diesel, would you mind explaining to me what your talking about on the anti-cavatation additive? I've got a 92 4x4 diesel with 240k on it. I haul cows and occasionally move my tractor around from time to time with it and I ain't ever used no kinda additive in my coolant. I don't understand why not having it would damage the engine so long as it ain't running hot. Thanx (always learning)

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dg Thanks for the info N/

09-19-2003 05:56:06

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Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to dg, 09-18-2003 12:05:33

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E. Borchardt

09-18-2003 15:53:01

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Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to dg, 09-18-2003 12:05:33

Gents,
Don't want to but into your conversion, but I have had occasion to see the results of cavitation on cylinder liners ( sleeves )out of several diesel engines. The most severe case that I can remember was out of a 4 cylinder JD. All 4 were totally destroyed. Cavitation in the since that we are talking is the formation of air bubbles ( vacuumes ) in a liquuid, in this case the engine coolant. This is caused by high intensity sound or high intensity vibration around the ID of the cylinders of diesel engines causing a local low pressure area. Cavitation is also found in the low pressure areas formed in centrifugal pumps and boat propellers. In the case of centrifugal pumps one can sometimes hear this by slowly closing the suction side of the pump until you hear what sounds like steel balls rattling around inside.That sound is the air bubbles imploding! These air bubbles will implode with such force that the metal is actually pitted and eroded away, and left unchecked will lead to failure. Earl

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T_Bone

09-18-2003 22:18:36

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Re: Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to E. Borchardt, 09-18-2003 15:53:01

Hi DG,

Earl explained it very well (thank you sir).

The only thing I can add is you can buy SCA test strips at NAPA to test your coolant once a year. If your levels are low then you buy a SCA addtive called F16. It has the directions on the package on how much to add to the green coolant.

ON 2002 and newer PSD's, then the SCA additive is good for the life of the coolant, 150k miles.

T_Bone

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09-19-2003 07:07:33

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Re: Re: Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to T_Bone, 09-18-2003 22:18:36

Thanks T Bone but call me stupid, I'm still a little confused. In a 2002 or newer psd, if I'm understanding you, runs a different coolant (red ?) than the older ones which allows the additive to last the life of the coolant, and the older style coolant (green) has to be checked anually for the additive? Thanx

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ScottT

09-19-2003 09:42:11

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to dg, 09-19-2003 07:07:33

Yes. That is correct. I usually end up adding 1-2 pints every spring.

Scott

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T_Bone

09-19-2003 11:50:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey T_ Bone in reply to ScottT, 09-19-2003 09:42:11

Hi dg,

Forgot to add that the long life coolant is Gold color for the 2002 plus Fords. Ford says not to run any other brand as it may not be compatable with the seals Ford uses. Ford and most other engine mfg also recomend only distilled water to be mixed with new or when adding anti-freeze. This keeps normal water minerals from attacking seals and keeps corrosion down. Thats nothing new as all closed water systems need distilled or treated water for maximum system life.

GM has a different anti-freeze mix and so does Cummins. I don't keep up with these two so exactly what they require I don't know. Red is the GM extended coolant (Dexcool?) tho if I remember correct.

T_Bone

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