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Optima Car Batteries

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AV8OR

09-17-2003 14:45:06




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My wife�s mini-van battery is starting to go and I thought I would replace it with an Optima battery. They cost twice to three times as much but a guy at work claims the Optima battery in his wife�s car is sixteen years old and still going.

I�ve seen them up at my local Sears so I went up there this afternoon to see if I could get one for the mini-van. I asked the guy if an Optima battery would fit a 1997 Chrysler Town & Country with a 3.8L engine and he said no. So he sold me a Diehard �group 34� battery with standard post terminals. On the way out the door I grab an Optima flyer they had by the batteries. When I got home I noticed the flyer it says one of the batteries is a �BCI Group 34 and 34R.�

My question is was the salesman feeding me a line of bull when he said the Optima battery wouldn�t fit my mini-van?

Thanks in advance,

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T_Bone

09-18-2003 06:38:50




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 Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-17-2003 14:45:06  
Hi AV8OR,

I learned along time ago to measure my battery size before entering a store then pick out my own.

The first Optima that I seen was several years ago when my son bought a pick-up with one in it. The battery was 7yrs old then. The son parked the truck for several years and the battery would go dead, radio clock. He would jump start the truck 3 times a year. Never did ruin that battery. Even the AZ heat didn't effect it. So thats about 12yrs old for his battery, impressive!

The orginal Optima Battery Company was sold a couple years ago, so I hope they don't change there battery quality as I'm planning on buying a set for my F350 PSD when I need them.

T_Bone

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Bowlegs

09-18-2003 13:45:26




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 Re: Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to T_Bone, 09-18-2003 06:38:50  
Hey TBone got 2 of them in my 97 PSD just love them came with the truck when I bought it and havent had to clean a cable yet



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Nolan Penney

09-18-2003 03:39:23




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 Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-17-2003 14:45:06  
Yes, the salesman lied to you. Whether it was an intentional lie, or incompetency, I cannot say. Though with salesmen in general, and Sears in particular, I'd suspect the former.



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Kevin

09-18-2003 19:27:47




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 Re: Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to Nolan Penney, 09-18-2003 03:39:23  
Yep, I'm with you for this one. Sears has 50% BSers and 50% incompentents. My guess is commission on a Diehard is nice and on an Optima nonexistant! I have a T&C and I will bet my lunch money an Optima will fit it!



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Adam B.

09-17-2003 22:41:03




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 Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-17-2003 14:45:06  
I've read the info on Optima batteries. They said something to the effect that their batteries may be a different size/shape than the standard battery in your vehicle, so in many cases you have to do some custom fitting to install them.

They have a different internal design that bleeds off very little energy when its just sitting around with no drain (no clock or engine control computer pulling current while the vehicle is parked).

As with a lot of newer, more expensive technologies, you need to consider if the added cost is justified. For example, if you have don't use a machine frequently enough to keep the battery charged (like a snowblower or lawn tractor that only gets used part of the year), the extra battery cost may pay off versus replacing several of the regular batteries.

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TimC

09-17-2003 19:15:25




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 Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-17-2003 14:45:06  
They appear to be great batteries. We use thing in tractors with lots of compression. They seem to be very durable.

While on the subject of salesman. They tend to hack me off to. I figure that if a man built something, car, truck, tractor, wheelbarrow, hey I'm a man, I can do it to but the way I want it and not what the book says.



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RayP(MI)

09-17-2003 18:45:06




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 Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-17-2003 14:45:06  
I've had fun with things like that... Went into Sears driving a Vega, (remember those?) one time. They were having a Diehard sale. Everything the same price. Told salesman I wanted the largest Diehard they had. "What kind of car you going to put it in?" Repeated that I wanted biggest. Repeated what car question.... this went on for several exchanges. Finally I told him "VEGA" - "What you want is this - pointing to one not much larger than a quart carton of milk. "NO - What I want looks like that one over there." - pointing to one that looked like it would start a locomotive. Well finally got him to sell me one that large. With a great amount of grumbling... Finally, he said, "I'd like to see you put that in a Vega." "Sure, if you'd get the door for me, I'd appreciate it." Carried battery out, opened hatchback, put it in, closed hatchback, got in and drove off. Looked in my mirror as I reached the street, salesman was standing there with his jaw flapping!

Actually, I did use that battery in a Vega, used a pair of pliers to bend edge of battery tray down and it fit fine. Was using quite a bit of communications gear in the car, and didn't want to get caught with a toy battery - all discharged when I needed to start it.

As far as your question, probably could have fit the battery you wanted in the car you wanted. Most of those guys only go by the book, and don't have knowledge of the vehicles. Replace with what came with the car - nothing else! Right - I get the biggest battery I can fit into the space, often several sizes larger than origional equipment. 12Volts is 12Volts! CCA's - the more the better - especially if you have to run lights, radios, etc.

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AV8OR

09-18-2003 08:39:27




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 Re: Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to RayP(MI), 09-17-2003 18:45:06  
Dear T_Bone

On another web site they sent me to:

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Seems as if the quality is going down hill on the red tops. You can go to home page and then search "Optima" for more information.



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Jon H

09-18-2003 10:01:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Optima Car Batteries in reply to AV8OR, 09-18-2003 08:39:27  
Sad to hear comments that the Optima battery quality is going down,I hope not true. I have one in a 1 ton pickup that is 16 years old. It has jump started countless big diesel tractor engines,been killed stone dead many times from leaving a light or accessory on. They do not gas,leak or corrode terminals or battery boxes.
About the only way of destroying them is to have a bad charging system that overcharges or an hour on one of those %$##&* booster chargers at 50+ amps will dry them out. I have used some of the Exide Orbital (clone of an Optima) batteries for several years now. On seasonal use farm equipment that sits unused for most of the year they are great. They do not self discharge or sulfate like an ordinary battery,and no corrosion. They are cheaper(made in Spain) and so far have performed as good as the Optima,but my oldest is only 4 years old.

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