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Lodge Shipley lathe

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Kent McMullen

09-17-2003 13:50:39




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I purchased a Lodge & Shipley lathe with serial # 13703, but no model # is evident. It is an engine lathe with 28" swing over bed, 72" centers, and has a 22" 4-jaw chuck. It has a direct overhead motor-driven gear drive headstock, but motor is missing and I can't figure how it drove direct to a gear @ 1750 rpm. The heaters were set up for three phase @ 30 amps. It has 45 thread speeds, a 9-speed transmission, and the carriage has a thread dial missing the gear that engages the lead screw. There are 6 spindle speeds in direct and 6 in back gear. The motor drive shaft would enter into a heavy cast housing and drive a gear mounted into the housing to run the headstock. A hand operated lever operates a slide under the motor that engages the clutch inside a large drum. It weighs 7900 lbs without motor and is a heavy built unit. I'm guessing it is 1940's or prior. Also, crank handle that moves tailstock is missing. Need parts source, model, and yr. of mfg.
Can anyone help? Anyone know if serial numbers for L & S ran consecutively regardless or model?

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wdTom

09-18-2003 18:24:02




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 Re: Lodge Shipley lathe in reply to Kent McMullen, 09-17-2003 13:50:39  
You might want to cantact Horold Barker at 3108 Klingler Rd. Ada, HH 45810. He will sell you a catalog of his "lists" which are an ordeal to sift through, however they do have many interesting reprints and original publications to do with many subjects of interest to us types.

Among others I purchased form Harold is a catalog of 1922 Lodge and Shipley Lathes. It lists 27" and 30". There are cone pully geared head models of each size, 14" thorugh 48. I have a L&S 12" by 60" between centers and I was looking for any information on it as I need to take the headstock apart to fix a fewteeth on the bull gear. Anyway, I didn't find anything too helpfull in my case. I think my lathe is a bit older or newer than the catalog lathes, but similar. Is very heavy duty for only a 12", and it too will cut many many different feeds and leads. If you are interested I can talk more about mine and those in the catalog and other L&S information I obtained form Harold and Monarch, which isn't too much but better than nothing.

Oh, the 27 and 30 inch lathes are listed as 15 HP and the 25 at 10 hp. Spindle speeds are max.at about 250 rpm. Even the smaller lathes only run at about 350 or 400rpm if I remember. Things were slower in those days. I suspect you could get away with 10 hp unless you need to do a lot of work fast. These HP figures are for the cone pully lathes, the geared head laths did not list hp. I would think they would be similar though size for size.

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Fred OH

09-17-2003 22:21:35




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 Re: Lodge Shipley lathe in reply to Kent McMullen, 09-17-2003 13:50:39  
My serial number reference book goes back to 1920...and the starting number for that year is 25725, listed as a Colerain Ave, Cincinnati company.
I have one of the older (1924) lathes in a slightly smaller size that sounds similar to the description of yours...but it is not gear driven...the motor...which looks to be 5 to 10 hp has a flat pulley and about a 3" flat belt configured thru a tightener to the (reversable)clutch spindle.. This lathe has a spindle mounting thread that was made before they were standardized and is kinda an oddball...but backing plates for the chuck can be made for plain backed chucks. Is yours setup with one lever for carriage feed that works one way for longitudinal carriage feed and the other way for cross feed? If it is...it's the same as mine. They are a heavy duty machine that compared to some of the stuff today...they would be called "monster duty" with all kinds of different leads that can be cut with them. The big problem that I see with them is the drive clutch and the clutch on the carriage feed...once worn out will have to be re-engineered by 'ol Rube Goldburg...otherwise they still thread good. I can't send you a pic of my setup...but I can sketch it and snail mail it to you. Get back with me...I'm in southern Ohio. L8R....Fred OH
PS Mine was supposedly used by the railroad.

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John Garner

09-17-2003 19:04:14




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 Re: Lodge Shipley lathe in reply to Kent McMullen, 09-17-2003 13:50:39  
Kent --

I can't answer your questions, but I'll bet that someone at either the Practical Machinist bulletin board (www.practicalmachinist.com) or Home Shop Machinist board (www.homeshopmachinist.net) can.

Lodge & Shipley folded a couple of years ago, Monarch bought the remains of the company before itself folding. What's left of Monarch and L&S is now a part of Lucas Precision . . . I think that their website is www.lucasprecision.com, but if that's not right, a web search will turn them up.

John

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Kent McMullen

09-19-2003 20:31:40




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 Re: Re: Lodge Shipley lathe in reply to John Garner, 09-17-2003 19:04:14  
John,

Thanks for your leads. I have found this lathe is very old--manufactured in 1912! I doubt any parts will ever be available. Lucas Precision had no parts for any Lodge & Shipley lathe that old. I will have to solve the missing parts problems myself, but I think it is do-able. I will check into the leads you sent. Thanks again!

Kent



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peter amstutz

12-01-2003 17:02:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Lodge Shipley lathe in reply to Kent McMullen, 09-19-2003 20:31:40  
I am also looking for parts for a lodge lathe. If I can't find them I'll maybe sell mine



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